# Some More Correlations on Mass Shootings in the United States

Estimating through end-May, regressions of mass shooting casualties, and mass shooting events:

Figure 1: Mass shooting casualties (killed+wounded), left scale (brown), and mass shooting events (blue bar, right scale). Gray shading denotes assault weapons ban. Orange shading denotes Trump administration. Source: Mother Jones database.

We can analyze correlations using regression analysis (negative binomial for casualties, Poisson for events).

casualtiest = –1.72 – 0.72 bant + 1.21 trumpt – 0.14 bident +0.00001popt

Adj-R2 = 0.022, SER = 32.6, NOBS = 389. Bold denotes significance at 10% msl, standard errors corrected for overdispersion (GLM option in EViews).

For number of mass shooting events, count regression (Poisson):

eventst = –5.27 – 0.55 bant + 0.55 trumpt + 0.014 bident +0.00001popt

Adj-R2 = 0.100, SER = 0.565, NOBS = 389. Bold denotes significance at 10% msl, standard errors corrected for overdispersion (GLM option in EViews).

Population for April, May extrapolated using previous year’s worth of population data (in log first differences).

## 139 thoughts on “Some More Correlations on Mass Shootings in the United States”

1. Moses Herzog

That’s wacko for Menzie. NO footnotes?? I guess we can assume Mother Jones or a respected government agency.

2. Moses Herzog

My girlfriend was a mathematics student who went to a “normal university” in Lioaning, it apparently is ranked 153rd in China currently, not sure where it was ranked then. (As far as I am aware she was never directly effected, she would have been a child when it happened, maybe 8 or 9 years old??) She was the 2nd best student from her hometown (the best student from her hometown had introduced me to her on a “blind date”, if you could call it that). Her friend ended up migrating to Australia before I left. I always enjoyed walking around the normal university campus (even though it was hell getting there from the other side of the city time-wise). It had lots of trees and such for an urban setting. My wish is that students of the future there can discuss any topic they like, and have more say into who their municipal, province, and federal level leaders are. It is not surprising that many of the students in the Tiananmen Square protests were some of the best students in all of China, as many were from the two top schools in China. Tsinghua University, and Peking University. It is also many of these “cream of the crop” students and people who were murdered by their own government. What does it say about a government that murders their best and their brightest?? This is something only discussed in hushed tones in China, and even in small private groupings, most people will not.

3. joseph

Okay, Menzie Chinn is trolling us here. But he seems angry and I am too. So bravo!

4. ltr

These correlations are completely convincing and of course critically important, however I have been thinking for some while that this work is even more compelling taken along with the work of Anne Case and Angus Deaton which depicts what could be argued has been a turn to a social or cultural nihilism:

March 17, 2017

Mortality and morbidity in the 21st century
By Anne Case and Angus Deaton

1. ltr

http://www.pnas.org/content/early/2015/10/29/1518393112

September 17, 2015

Rising morbidity and mortality in midlife among white non-Hispanic Americans in the 21st century
By Anne Case and Angus Deaton

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/graph/?g=PIpL

January 30, 2018

Life Expectancy at Birth for United States, Canada, France, Germany, Italy, Japan and United Kingdom, 2007-2020

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/graph/?g=PIpU

January 30, 2018

Infant Mortality Rate for United States, Canada, France, Germany, Italy, Japan and United Kingdom, 2007-2020

2. Macroduck

It’s not really up to you to decide what’s convincing. We each decide that for ourselves.

1. Expat

That is not true. Most people are incapable of making rational, informed decisions about arcane, esoteric or complex issues. This idea that ignorance is a virtue and a basis for science is disgusting. It is not uniquely American but has a very strong hold on the American people. Quoting the Bible, claiming the right to alt-facts and willfully misrepresenting reality are not valid foundations for forming an opinion.

So while you might want each person to decide for himself, most people will be wrong. As you are when you make that statement.

3. ltr

The correlations by Menzie Chinn are completely convincing and of course critically important, however I have been thinking for some while that the work of Chinn is even more compelling taken along with the work of Anne Case and Angus Deaton which depicts what could be argued has been a turn to a social or cultural despair or nihilism.

5. Not Trampis

We do not allow people to have semi-automatic or automatic weapons down under but hen we do to have anymore mass shootings either. I see from polling neither do yanks so why?

1. Moses Herzog

Something weird in the American culture, related to how American males define themselves as “men”, and something that happens to guys~~”losers” “ne’er do wells” when they reach a certain age (could be just past college age, could be middle age) where they glance up and realize they have not gotten “to the point” or made the progression to where they thought they would be at that stage in their lives. I don ‘t think the Tulsa shooting fits my description, I think he was just pissed at that doctor. But that Tulsa shooting falls outside of the norm. Usually it’s more of a “slow build” of anger. That is my armchair psychoanalysis of the deal. You have to wait for about a 40 second advertisement before each of these news stories
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/buffalo-massacre-highlights-how-mass-shooters-are-able-to-obtain-weapons-legally

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/researchers-look-for-ways-to-identify-young-people-who-are-on-the-pathway-to-violence

6. ltr

https://news.cgtn.com/news/2022-06-04/Chinese-mainland-records-46-new-confirmed-COVID-19-cases-1aAcvMODgFG/index.html

June 4, 2022

Chinese mainland records 46 new confirmed COVID-19 cases

The Chinese mainland recorded 46 confirmed COVID-19 cases on Friday, with 21 linked to local transmissions and 25 from overseas, data from the National Health Commission showed on Saturday.

A total of 125 asymptomatic cases were also recorded on Friday, and 7,318 asymptomatic patients remain under medical observation.

The cumulative number of confirmed cases on the Chinese mainland is 224,254, with the death toll from COVID-19 standing at 5,226.

Chinese mainland new locally transmitted cases

https://news.cgtn.com/news/2022-06-04/Chinese-mainland-records-46-new-confirmed-COVID-19-cases-1aAcvMODgFG/img/7247bcbd3b694b0bb6e934e838564506/7247bcbd3b694b0bb6e934e838564506.jpeg

Chinese mainland new imported cases

https://news.cgtn.com/news/2022-06-04/Chinese-mainland-records-46-new-confirmed-COVID-19-cases-1aAcvMODgFG/img/d8de6d3bba93451795cb372eefcd4525/d8de6d3bba93451795cb372eefcd4525.jpeg

Chinese mainland new asymptomatic cases

https://news.cgtn.com/news/2022-06-04/Chinese-mainland-records-46-new-confirmed-COVID-19-cases-1aAcvMODgFG/img/58041e4c71aa44668afcd7d984e01873/58041e4c71aa44668afcd7d984e01873.jpeg

7. ltr

https://news.cgtn.com/news/2022-05-30/Maternal-infant-mortality-rates-in-China-drop-to-historical-low-1asgHJRb2EM/index.html

May 30, 2022

Maternal, infant mortality rates in China drop to historical low

China’s maternal and infant mortality rates have both dropped to a historical low, the National Health Commission said Monday.

In 2021, China recorded a maternal mortality rate of 16.1 per 100,000, said Song Li, head of the Commission’s maternal and child health department. At the same time, the mortality rates of infants and children under five have decreased to 5 per thousand and 7.1 per thousand, respectively, both dropping to a record low.

Compared to 10 years ago, China’s maternal mortality rate and the mortality rates of infants and children under five have dropped by 38 percent, 58 percent and 54 percent, respectively, Song said.

Song said the country has made notable achievements in building healthcare mechanisms for women and children, improving related health services and ensuring equal access to these services.

There are 3,032 maternal and child healthcare institutions, 793 maternity hospitals and 151 children’s hospitals nationwide. The number of obstetrician-gynecologists and pediatricians in the country has grown to 373,000 and 206,000, respectively….

8. Baffling

There is a group of people on this blog who consistently criticize prof chinn. But they are deafeningly silent when it comes to protecting our schoolchildren against gun violence. They are cowards. Assault rifles have no business in our society if they are used to takes lives in mass shootings.

1. CoRev

Baffled -coward claims: “Assault rifles have no business in our society if they are used to takes lives in mass shootings.” Translated in normal speech: “Oh look a rabid, male, grey flying squirrel bit children. We need to kill all flying animals.”

Yes the solution is that foolish. As is this argument. Was the assault rifles the root cause of the problem? Did it ALONE transport itself into the school, aim and shoot children? How?

Moreover, Baffled who calls others coward, can/will not show examples for when they call things false or raise a pertinent question when asked.

1. pgl

Your comments have gone from stupid to downright disgusting. I get you do not care about even remotely honest but damn – can you at least TRY to make an actual contribution.

2. 2slugbaits

CoRev We don’t know the root cause of these mass shootings. In fact, there’s no reason to believe there even is a single root cause rather than a constellation of causes…one of which could very well be the perverse thrill some people have with owning an assault rifle. But even though we don’t know the cause or causes, we do know the instruments used in those kinds of killings. You don’t read about mass killings in which the assailant used his grandpappy’s single shot .410 squirrel gun. No one has any reason to even own a semi-automatic weapon never mind an assault rifle with extended magazines full of highly lethal ammunition. If you can’t hit your target with a single shot, then you have no business owning a gun. And as my old riflery instructor used to remind us, semi-automatic rifles only teach bad habits. I don’t know about you, but when I was taught riflery we only used single shot bold action guns because those enforced the discipline (both physical and mental) that riflery was supposed to teach. People that just blew off as many rounds as they could as quickly as they could never seemed to understand the point of riflery as a sport.

1. CoRev

2slugs, why did you not respond to the comment in the last thread? I see your understanding is no better though: ” You don’t read about mass killings in which the assailant used his grandpappy’s single shot .410 squirrel gun.” That’s true, but 77% of mass shootings are done with hand guns: “Handguns are the most common weapon type used in mass shootings in the United States, with a total of 146 different handguns being used in 98 incidents between 1982 and June 2022. These figures are calculated from a total of 129 reported cases over this period, meaning handguns are involved in about 76 percent of mass shootings.” https://www.statista.com/statistics/476409/mass-shootings-in-the-us-by-weapon-types-used/

Would you please define an assault rifle (your term) and mass killing/shootings.

1. pgl

“2slugs, why did you not respond to the comment in the last thread?”

He did – now you do not respond to other people’s comments. Now you may not like the reality 2slug noted so it is off with your usual ranting. Ahem.

2. CoRev

Bierka claims: ““2slugs, why did you not respond to the comment in the last thread?”

He did – ”
No, he did not! I refer to this comment and its point: ”
CoRev
May 29, 2022 at 5:22 am

2slugs claims: “CoRev No need to haggle over the definition of an assault weapon.” Actually the lack of a definition is the core of the problem. Trying to control something ill defined is doomed to failure. That’s because the definition does not fit reality. …”

BTW, the same point has been forwarded above: “Would you please define an assault rifle (your term) and mass killing/shootings.”

2. pgl

One right winger said the root cause was rap music. Oh wait – the root cause was young men checking out hot ladies on the IG. That’s it!

1. pgl

CoRev
June 6, 2022 at 4:31 am

Poor little CoRev – no one has defined deadly weapons for the pointless little troll. AHHHH!

2. CoRev

Bierka, Baffled, Barkley et al, from above: ” “Would you please define an assault rifle (your term) and mass killing/shootings.”

I’ll wait.

3. Moses Herzog

@CoRev
I respect 2slugbaits for extending himself and giving you the benefit of the doubt, but really I think any reply he gives you is a waste of time. I think it is the mind frame/method of a teacher to always believe that even the worst students you can give them some new light/new knowledge. Jesus never booted Judas to the curb, did he?? Was it you or Ed Hanson or BOTH who could never admit you were wrong about the soybean tariffs?? But we’re supposed to think your mind is malleable to new facts or new views. REALLY?!?!?!?!

3. baffling

background checks and a ban on assault rifles will go a long ways towards reducing gun violence in this nation. you either want to achieve that goal, or you are ok with the continuation of mass shootings in our schools. a 6 year old should not have to worry about gun violence in their school. and yet they do, today, even in texas. and florida.

1. Barkley Rosser

Actually, an article in WaPo recently (sorry no link) summarized academic studies. it looks like the two legislative moves that would reduce the numbers dead from gun violence are first of all laws on households making guns inaccessible to children and second limiting magazines, although heigtened background checks and red flag laws look to be helpful as well. Limiting magazines probably more effective than banning assault weapons, however defined, although latter does not hurt.

2. pgl

Ronald Reagan supported both. Thatcher went even further in the UK. I guess the two darlings of conservatives are now seen as Communists in MAAGA land.

4. Expat

I think we should legalize school shootings and even turn it into a competitive sport. Once the Chinese start to dominate and consistently win the gold at the Olympics, racist right-wing Americans will retaliate by demanding an international ban on assault rifles, claiming that “cheap Chinese knock-off AK-47’s mean that too many Chinese men have access to assault rifles giving China an advantage over hard-working, God-fearing ‘Muricans who need to spend their hard-earned money to buy expensive AR-15’s. Amen and Bless Jesus.”

9. pgl

Raising the assault weapon ban from people age 18 to 21 is not nearly enough. No one – even this 56 killer – needs an assault weapon of any other gun:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/mcconnell-2-governors-said-to-be-in-wisconsin-gunman-s-hit-list/ar-AAY5js6?bk=1&ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=8a7730a9202346c3b3db23aec2d189e0

What’s up with people in Wisconsin anyway. He kills a retire judge and planned to kill not only the governor (a Democrat) but also Republican Senator Mitch McConnell. I guess his lust for death is bipartisan.

10. Bruce Hall

Yesterday, I participated in a mass shooting. Over 200 clay pigeons were wounded or killed over a period of several hours. No people were injured. That’s typical of the vast preponderance of shotgun and rifle owners. Hours of safe practice and then hunting season. Fresh venison or duck, mmmm.

Oh, and then there is this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6axS9F-qeY

1. pgl

Erich Pratt? This man is so disgusting he insulted St. Reagan:

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/erich-pratt-gun-owners-of-america_n_2488903

I used to shop on South Street which is a lovely part of Philly. But of course a disgusting little troll like you has to mock the carnage that went down there.

Hey Brucie – make out like your hero Erich Pratt and tell us that St. Reagan was senile. I would say that would be a new low for even you but no – you are disgusting 24/7.

1. pgl

Bruce’s new hero Erich Pratt claimed President Reagan opposed any form of gun safety laws when he was President. It seems Mr. Pratt LIED:

https://globalistnews.blogspot.com/2014/03/ronald-reagan-and-gun-control-01162013.html

Reagan backed the Brady registration proposal. Reagan backed the banning of military assault weapons. Of course, Mr, Pratt as the head of the Gun Owners of America blatantly lies in his advocacy of the right of people to commit mass murders. But hey – Bruce Hall loves this kind of blatant dishonesty. He practices it all the time.

2. pgl

“Over 200 clay pigeons were wounded or killed over a period of several hours.”

I bet Brucie has to use an AK15 to go hunting. And I’m sure he fired off over 2000 rounds if he managed to hit the clay pigeon that many times.

Look – no one is saying hunters cannot have rifles but one does not need a military assault weapon to hunt Bambi. Unless one is a total incompetent like Bruce Hall.

1. Bruce Hall

pgl,

You wouldn’t know a military assault weapon if you saw one. Hint: it’s not an AR-15. Another hint: AR doesn’t stand for “Assault Rifle”. Another hint: you don’t shoot at clay pigeons with an AR-15. Another hint: the 5.56 round used in AR-15 is the equivalent of the .223 round and you don’t use that for deer hunting… maybe going after sniveling, skulking coyotes.

1. 2slugbaits

Bruce Hall the 5.56 round used in AR-15 is the equivalent of the .223 round

That’s actually not quite right. The calibers are nearly the same (5.56mm / 25.4mm = 0.219), but there are slight differences. If you have the NATO 5.56mm version of the AR-15, then you can use the Remington .223; however, if you have the Remington .223 version of the AR-15 then you cannot use the NATO round.

And we all know that “AR” doesn’t stand for “Assault Rifle.” It’s an abbreviation of the name of the original manufacturer.

But I’m glad to see you agree that you don’t use an AR-15 for deer hunting. The only thing an AR-15 is good for is killing humans.

1. pgl

Please do not expect Brucie to get anything right. He is not paid for honesty after all.

2. Bruce Hall

They are basically interchangeable in the AR-15. The main difference is in the powder load and slight variation in the barrel (which can be changed).

Now as for “needing” a semi-automatic rifle, I guess the same thing could be said for “needing” a \$100K plus Hummer EV or an \$80K Tesla. Not needed; let’s let the government decide what is needed, right?

Have you gone deer hunting? Some hunters are fine with a bolt action, but they have to be pretty damned good to get off the second shot before the deer is gone. A semi-automatic allows you to get off additional shots quickly if the animal is wounded. But, as you said, you knew that.

But here’s the deal: I’ll let the government trade my evil looking AR-15 straight up for this fine, non-threatening hunting rifle:
https://www.ruger.com/products/mini14RanchRifle/specSheets/5816.html
Then everyone will feel safe and happy because my rifle doesn’t have a pistol grip.

Next time you go deer hunting, use a 30-06 or a .308 Winchester if those 5.56s scare you so much. Oh, wait….

3. Noneconomist

Semis allow you to get off more than one shot at a deer if you miss….when the Constitution was written {followed by adoption of the Bill of Rights) game hunters—members of the trained local militia—- who were actually hunting necessary food had to learn to be very accurate with the single shot weapons of the day.
The fictional Natty Bumppo (AKA Hawkeye, Deerslayer, Pathfinder, La Longe Carabine) and his friends prized accuracy. They had to Otherwise, they didn’t eat or dinner would be meatless.
Today’s modern Michigan hunter likely has no real need to hunt other than for sport. The real “need” covers his inability to be accurate on the first shot {with a second, third and fourth if necessary). All that after enticing the prey with “food” purchased at the closest market.
Putting a few in a chummed buck is one thing. Mentally deranged nitwits firing aimlessly into crowds with weapons intended for the military or law enforcement is quite another.
Who really “needs” what?

4. CoRev

2slugs says: “The calibers are nearly the same (5.56mm / 25.4mm = 0.219), but there are slight differences. If you have the NATO 5.56mm version of the AR-15, then you can use the Remington .223; however, if you have the Remington .223 version of the AR-15 then you cannot use the NATO round.” That’s wrong! “. To keep it simple, the 5.56mm is essentially just a different type of chamber profile as compared to ‘civilian’ .223, but the two can pretty much be used interchangeably. There are minute differences in the throat (the space in the bore where the chamber ends and the rifling starts) where wear may be accelerated if one uses higher-pressure 5.56ammo in a .223 chamber, but that isn’t a big deal. In fact, I doubt that most, if any, shooters would ever be able to tell a difference.” https://www.maxonshooters.com/blog/calibers-for-beginners-223-remington-5-56mm-nato
and
“But I’m glad to see you agree that you don’t use an AR-15 for deer hunting. The only thing an AR-15 is good for is killing humans.” Deer are usually smaller than the adult human. If it is good for killing humans, then it is also good at killing deer. The reason knowledgeable hunters do not recommend this caliber for deer is there are far better caliber options even in this same AR gun frame.

So many myths and so much misinformation.

“Would you please define an assault rifle (your term) and mass killing/shootings.”

5. Moses Herzog

CoRev’s and sammy’s big heroes in life, hiding in a U-Haul truck like small children taking a field trip. I wonder if they had an adult guardian?? Seems not. But a concerned citizen called it in. If you see something strange folks, call your local police dept’s non-emergency number (unless you actually see guns obviously, then call 911). If you call the non-emergency police number you get action but you’re not robbing resources where they are needed. Put the non-emergency police number on your phone or on a fridge magnet. You can be a hero like the man who phoned these losers in to the police.

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/31-patriot-front-members-arrested-near-idaho-pride-event

1. pgl

I actually had a coyote run with me for a half mile. Scared out of my mind as no I do not carry a gun on my long runs. Fortunately for me he was after a rabbit. Bruce Hall uses his AR-15 to kill Bugs Bunny.

2. Bruce Hall

pgl was scared out of his mind from a coyote? An animal 2/3 the size of a Golden Retriever? Why do you think it was chasing a rabbit?

3. Barkley Rosser

Oh gag, Bruce. Since you virtuously gave up calling pgl “Lucy,” you just could not resist calling him a “metrosexual.” It really sticks out that like another person on this site, you have a serious problem with your sexual identity. Please spare us the emendations emitting from your personal problems and hangups.

I know, maybe stroking fondly and then firing away hundreds of times with your various guns will help you with your masculinity issues.

4. pgl

Bruce Hall
June 6, 2022 at 12:53 pm

I doubt little Brucie could run across the street if he was being chased by an Antifi terrorist. Hey I have ended up stepping on rattle snakes during my trail runs but I never saw this little coward anywhere near a trail.

5. Bruce Hall

Barkley, the label fits pgl. You don’t have to like it. I don’t especially like some of terms he applies to me, but apparently my skin is thicker than yours or his. pgl lives for the ad hominem retort. I’m sure he’s almost man enough to handle the occasional barb thrown his way.

Meanwhile, he considers himself brave for almost tripping over a rattlesnake. That’s impressive (ya sure).

6. pgl

“Bruce Hall
June 7, 2022 at 1:46 pm
Barkley, the label fits pgl. You don’t have to like it. I don’t especially like some of terms he applies to me”

I do call you a liar. Why? Because you do that 24/7. I have suggested you are really stupid – why? Read any of your really dumb comments. No Brucie boy – everything I have called you fits perfectly. So grow up little troll. And BTW – your wife has figured out that you want to date guys with girls name. I can recommend a good divorce attorney.

7. Barkley Rosser

Sorry, Bruce Hall, no way in heck your skin is thicker than mine. You clearly have serious problems of sexual identity that you keep dragging in here. Deal with them somewhere else, please.

2. Expat

If you are going to pick a fight and start insulting people, you should do some research. Start by reading the post you are responding to.

2. Noneconomist

Maternal grandfather bragged about using only a 16 ga. Remington single shot to bag small game to add to family dinners. Last time I fired it, the noise was deafening and the metal can dead with a large hole in the middle
Best friend’s dad bagged a deer every year with a 30:06 bolt action rifle. Venison steak was not my favorite,
Those were the bygone days. I’ll assume from the comments of BH and CR, that a good guy with a gun(especially unhinged teens) needs far more firepower than either of the fore mentioned firearms could ever provide.

1. pgl

Bruce Hall wants to date some 18 year old boy named Lucy who extends his man hood by carrying an AR 15.

1. pgl

Bruce Hall
June 6, 2022 at 12:55 pm

So lovely of you. OK – I will not tell your wife that you are cheating on her with young guys.

3. 2slugbaits

Bruce Hall Did you use an AR-15 to shoot those clay pigeons? Are you such a bad shot that you need an extended magazine to hit one? Any idea what an AR-15 5.56mm round would do to your venison or duck? It would be inedible mush. Most people use shotguns to hunt ducks and in my state you can’t hunt deer with a rifle. If you want to hunt deer, then it’s either a bow & arrow or a 12 gauge deer slug. Rifle rounds travel too far.

Maybe you should make an honest effort at understanding the real arguments instead of the strawman arguments you keep inventing.

1. CoRev

2slugs, maybe you should make an honest effort at understanding the real arguments instead of the strawman arguments you keep inventing. … in my state you can’t hunt deer with a rifle. If you want to hunt deer, then it’s either a bow & arrow or a 12 gauge deer slug. Rifle rounds travel too far.”

Please, please stop the emoting and learn something about what you opine. Yes the AR is used for deer. If not there wouldn’t be deer rounds on the market. have you never heard of calibers? “What AR caliber is good for deer hunting?

Of all the AR deer cartridges on the market, the 6.8 SPC is the most versatile, and I believe it’s the best. It’s perfect for whitetail, great for hogs and it doubles as a fantastic defensive round. The. 270-caliber bullet shoots flat and retains its energy well down range.” https://www.dixielandplantation.net/hunting/what-5-56-ammo-is-best-for-hunting.html

I also bet’cha your state has a muzzle loader season, and there has been this stick and string weapon, the cross bow, for centuries, that is also used for hunting. Hunting weapons other than the traditional ones you listed also include pistol, air guns, and even primitive weapons. but they seldom have their separate season.

1. pgl

Where you looking at a mirror or what? Emoting BS is your forte after all.

2. Bruce Hall

CoRev, the real “strawman” is the argument around “need”. Need has nothing to do with a choice made within your rights. These uninformed, but highly afraid, individuals believe that a 9mm round will “blow a lung out of your body”. They believe cosmetic differences are what make a rifle more or less effective. If I choose to keep an AR-15 in my home, that’s a choice I am free to make and I don’t have to justify any “need” to someone afraid of a coyote chasing a rabbit. If I chose to keep a .45 cal Judge revolver for home defense instead of a 9mm “blow a lung out of your body” plinker, that’s a choice I am free to make and I don’t have to justify any “need” to someone afraid of a rabbit chasing some leafy lettuce.
https://www.taurususa.com/revolvers/taurus-judge/taurus-judge-r-45-colt-410-ga-matte-stainless-6-50-in

And, yes, you can hit a launched clay pigeon with a .45 cal Judge loaded with .410 shotgun shells… with enough practice.

Perhaps they should stick to economics and temporary inflation.

1. pgl

Need? Oh yea – your sick need to date dudes with girls name. Glad we cleared that up!

2. CoRev

Bruce claims: “Perhaps they should stick to economics and temporary inflation.” Oh my, ROFL.

I wonder if they (Y’all know who you are) could give us a list of their successful policies.

2. Bruce Hall

Bruce Hall Did you use an AR-15 to shoot those clay pigeons?

Well, that tells me all I need to know about your “expertise”.

1. CoRev

Bruce, they do amaze don’t they? They’re laughable.

They still can/will not define an assault rifle/weapon nor what a mass shooting is. Proposing solutions for problems they can not define is also laughable. How crazy and ignorant are these /sarc liberal deep thinkers?/sarc

1. Moses Herzog

What frightens me about this, is that one day it might even effect the “important people”. Then how long will it take for Republicans to act?? They shrugged their shoulders at Gabby Giffords, so, really, why would they care about a rapist??
https://www.kiro7.com/news/politics/armed-man-arrested/RAMJ3FLOKWK26N6SZPLHRDHRAY/

Mitt Romney just deposited one of his NRA payments and he says Kavanaugh needs good security guards and the luck of the Irish:

2. pgl

“They still can/will not define an assault rifle/weapon nor what a mass shooting is.”

Hey folks – CoRev’s parents never bought their baby boy a dictionary and of course CoRev is living off the government dole and cannot afford one. Let’s start a Go Fund page to buy this poor little troll a damn dictionary.

4. Noneconomist

Last time I was in Michigan (2013), I noticed a sign at a store in the UP advertising “Deer Food.’ Took a while before we figured this was simply a ploy to attract deer and to bring them closer and make them easier to kill. A form of “chumming” that is illegal in most places. So, it is understandable why some “ hunters” require rapid fire weaponry—even after feeding their quarry—to finally bag a deer.
And it also explains how some might need more advanced firepower even while stalking inanimate objects.

1. pgl

Even with the deer walking up to the store, Bruce Hall could not hit it with his AR15. And of course CoRev did no better as he was too busy trying to define “deer”. Yes – they are both THAT STUPID!

5. Moses Herzog

I like a joke as much as anyone. I’m certain I’ve said some jokes on this blog that were borderline or some felt were distasteful. Maybe watching David Letterman from age of 8 to age 42 gave me a taste for dark humor. Reading William Burroughs at a young age, Hunter Thompson, later on Denis Johnson, maybe effect my weird taste in humor. But…… I hear this thing people say, and certain words and phrases become “trendy” or trends, and lately one of these trendy phrases has been, that after someone tells a joke, related to something very painful (a death for instance) people will sardonically say “Too soon??”. I have to say after multiple children in Uvalde were murdered, Bruce Hall thinking it “cute” to compare little innocent human beings, with a soul to…… pigeons…… is not only “too soon”, but shows a kind of callousness to human life that I think only people like Salvador Ramos could relate to.

1. Bruce Hall

Moses, that’s quite the inference you’ve drawn. Wrong, but still impressive convoluted thinking.

1. Moses Herzog

@ Bruce Hall
You remind me of Stephen A Smith on TV, who denies he said something 10 seconds after he said it.
https://nypost.com/2022/06/07/kevin-durant-enjoys-stephen-a-smith-taking-heat-on-first-take/

“Yesterday, I participated in a mass shooting. Over 200 clay pigeons were wounded or killed over a period of several hours.”

Right after the Uvalde shooting. We were supposed to think you were making an analogy between pigeons and squirrels?? Because the only time I hear the words “mass shooting” used is in relation to human beings. Is English your first language??

1. Moses Herzog

I turned mine off, and it DOES help. Menzie and the general reader see I make a lot of typos (and even misspellings of my own accord). The weird thing is I probably make more typos when I am sober than when I am drinking, because i become more self-conscious (at least on the keyboard) when drinking. But there is something to be salvaged when your own mistakes are yours and the computer doesn’t grab a word that is TOTALLY unrelated to what you are saying and really in essence compounds the error from a one letter typo into a horrendous sounding sentence.

11. AS

Professor Chinn,
Using data from 1990 to 2022 I show NOBS=389 but get a bit different answer from yours. I assume it is my error.
A couple questions:
1. What data series are you using for POP? I notice that the FRED series, POP, includes overseas armed forces. The FRED series, CNP16OV includes “Civilian noninstitutional population is defined as persons 16 years of age and older residing in the 50 states and the District of Columbia, who are not inmates of institutions (e.g., penal and mental facilities, homes for the aged), and who are not on active duty in the Armed Forces.” But CNP16OV shows population through May 2022, so I am guessing this is not the series used.
2. You mention dlog(POP). Does population need to enter the model as a stationary value?
3. Is there a reason not to use Mother Jones data back to 1982?

12. ltr

March 17, 2017

Mortality and morbidity in the 21st century
By Anne Case and Angus Deaton

Summary

We build on and extend the findings in Case and Deaton (2015 * ) on increases in mortality and morbidity among white non-Hispanic Americans in midlife since the turn of the century. Increases in all-cause mortality continued unabated to 2015, with additional increases in drug overdoses, suicides, and alcoholic-related liver mortality, particularly among those with a high-school degree or less. The decline in mortality from heart disease has slowed and, most recently, stopped, and this combined with the three other causes is responsible for the increase in all-cause mortality. Not only are educational differences in mortality among whites increasing, but mortality is rising for those without, and falling for those with, a college degree. This is true for non-Hispanic white men and women in all age groups from 25-29 through 60-64. Mortality rates among blacks and Hispanics continue to fall; in 1999, the mortality rate of white non-Hispanics aged 50-54 with only a high-school degree was 30 percent lower than the mortality rate of blacks in the same age group; by 2015, it was 30 percent higher. There are similar crossovers between white and black mortality in all age groups from 25-29 to 60-64.

Mortality rates in comparable rich countries have continued their pre-millennial fall at the rates that used to characterize the US. In contrast to the US, mortality rates in Europe are falling for those with low levels of educational attainment, and are doing so more rapidly than mortality rates for those with higher levels of education….

1. ltr

An emphasis drawing from the Case and Deaton findings, and drawn from recent findings on psychological needs, would ask that mental health provisions in insurance from wholly private to Affordable Care Act to Medicaid to Medicare coverage allow for “ample” mental health counseling and treatment and that schools at all levels have psychological counseling readily available.

13. ltr

https://english.news.cn/20220605/88927d25cab84bbdb27a874f324fd7a7/c.html

June 5, 2022

China launches crewed mission to complete space station construction
By Zhou Zhou, Quan Xiaoshu and Liu Yiwei

BEIJING — China on Sunday launched the crewed spaceship Shenzhou-14, sending three astronauts to its space station combination for a six-month mission.

The trio will cooperate with the ground team to complete the assembly and construction of the Tiangong space station, developing it from a single-module structure into a national space laboratory with three modules — the core module Tianhe and two lab modules Wentian and Mengtian.

The spaceship, atop a Long March-2F carrier rocket, was lifted off from the Jiuquan Satellite Launch Center in northwest China at 10:44 a.m., according to the China Manned Space Agency (CMSA).

About 577 seconds after the launch, Shenzhou-14 separated from the rocket and entered its designated orbit. The crew members are in good shape and the launch is a complete success, the CMSA declared.

This is the 23rd flight mission since the approval and launch of the country’s manned space program, and the third crewed mission for China’s space station project.

At 5:42 p.m., the spaceship conducted a fast automated rendezvous and docking with the combination of the Tianhe module, the Tianzhou-3 cargo craft and the Tianzhou-4 cargo craft.

After a series of preparations, Chen Dong, the commander of the crew, opened the hatch of the Tianhe core module. By 8:50 p.m. (Beijing Time), astronauts Chen Dong, Liu Yang and Cai Xuzhe had entered Tianhe one by one.

The crew will work with the ground team to complete the rendezvous, docking and transposition of the two lab modules with the core module, said Lin Xiqiang, deputy director of the CMSA, at a press conference Saturday.

The Tianhe core module was launched in April 2021, and the Wentian lab module is set to be launched in July and Mengtian in October.

The Shenzhou-14 crew will also witness, during their stay in orbit, the Tianzhou-5 cargo craft and Shenzhou-15 crewed spaceship dock with the core module. Then, they will live and work together with the Shenzhou-15 crew for multiple days before returning to Earth….

14. pgl

Steve Scalise is another one of those nutjobs opposed to any form of gun safety legislation so he goes on Faux News where he did not expect this:

Fox News anchor John Roberts confronted one of the top Republicans in the House with a troubling statistic about gun violence, as many on the right are vehemently opposing gun safety reforms. During an interview on Fox News Sunday, Roberts presented House Minority Whip Steve Scalise (R-LA) with the numbers showing that, among all nations in deaths due to gun violence, the U.S. completely laps the field. “In terms of the developed world, the United States far and away leads every other nation … in terms of gun violence,” Roberts said. He added, “The U.S. way out in front with four deaths per 100,000 people. The next closest nation is Cyprus, way behind at just below .7 deaths per 100,000 people. What you think is responsible for that discrepancy?”

Scalise never even tried to answer this preferring to blame it on the Defund the Police crowd. Yea – he is that clueless.

1. CoRev

Bierka, speaking of clueless, Scalise exemplifies the results of the unbridled hatred you and your party show to those who have other beliefs. Yes, your hatred is a possible cause for that attempted mass killing.

1. pgl

We all fault sorry when he was gunned down. Too bad his beliefs do not extend the same concern for this fellow man. Other than that – your comment shows more of your usual insanity. If they redo One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest, I’m asking the producer to hire you to star in it.

1. pgl

You are really disgusting. Yes – I even prayed for him But then I have a soul. You don’t.

2. CoRev

“You are really disgusting. ” claims the disgustingly reactive Bierka. Give us a break! Claiming to have a soul and praying? After 2 decades of reading your comments there is NO SUCH EVIDENCE.

Evidence of anger and hatred? Mucho!

3. pgl

CoRev
June 8, 2022 at 5:13 am

Is CoRev your pit bull? If so, please tell him to stop chasing his own tail.

2. Ivan

I guess it would be too much to expect the Fox Anchor to have the absurd high levels of police funding in US vs. the world ready to fire back at the dimwit.

3. Barkley Rosser

CoRev,

Gosh, you just cannot stop bierking badly like a sick dog, can you, CoRev. Pathetic.

15. pgl

Gotta to love the US mens soccer team. #1 – there are sharing any World Cup winnings with the ladies (they should as the ladies usually win it all). #2 – they are in for gun safety laws. OK the MAGA hat types and Trump will probably decide not to watch the World Cup. But I’m cool with fatso Trump not caring about a game which his lard real end would not last more than 5 minutes playing.

1. Ivan

Death from gunshots in the 0-19 age group would have been fun to look at to. I think gunshots has made it to the top of the list for that age group.

16. Econned

I like the approach of using a Poisson model as an attempt to model and quantify these variables.
Is the reported Adj-R2 a pseudo-R2? If so, can you elaborate which you’ve selected? Or did you just report R2 out of habit?

17. pgl

One has to admire young David Hogg and his stance on gun safety laws. Of course that witch with a B from KKK headquarters is Northeast Georgia (Marjorie Taylor Greene) wants to meet with him presumably pointing her pistol at him. David had the perfect response – I don’t have time to meet you witch with a B!

https://www.msn.com/en-us/tv/news/david-hogg-shuts-down-marjorie-taylor-greene-s-invitation-to-meet-on-gun-reform-don-t-really-have-time-to-help-you-go-viral/ar-AAY8QCv?bk=1&ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=b64c8516c8104d7e8f637e18b4f5a9f3

18. pgl

Kevin Drum gets the sense that what the bipartisan Senate talks on gun safety will produce will be two very minor tweeks, which he calls meaningless. If he is correct about what will get passed in the Senate – it is meaningless:

https://jabberwocking.com/the-senates-response-to-uvalde-is-plodding-along-meaninglessly/

I would ban all guns. OK – maybe that is too far for our nation to go but WTF is wrong with restoring the Brady registration process and banning military assault weapons. Hey – St. Reagan supported both.

19. pgl

Blake Masters is your standard MAGA hat wearing racist so I guess it is no surprise that he does not blame gun violence on all the guns in this nation. No he blames … wait for it BLACK PEOPLE:

Blake Masters, whom former President Donald Trump recently endorsed for Senate in Arizona, said during a podcast appearance earlier this year that “Black people, frankly” are responsible for America’s gun violence problem. “We do have a gun violence problem in this country, and it’s gang violence,” Masters said on the “Jeff Oravits Show” on April 11, the Daily Beast reported on Sunday. “It’s people in Chicago, St. Louis shooting each other. Very often, you know, Black people, frankly. And the Democrats don’t want to do anything about that.”

I guess the Masters plan would be to just get rid of all those darkies and let4 white people carry military assault weapons. MAGA!

1. Bruce Hall

Don’t know much about that guy, Masters, but perhaps he was just referring to FBI stats. Of course, the government’s politically correct spin was that Black people are overrepresented and White people were underrepresented.
“Allen J. Beck, Ph.D., BJS Statistician
In 2018, based on data from the FBI’s Uniform Crime Reporting (UCR) Program, black people were overrepresented among persons arrested for
nonfatal violent crimes (33%) and for serious nonfatal violent crimes (36%) relative to their representation
in the U.S. population (13%) (table 1).1 White people were underrepresented. White people accounted for 60% of U.S. residents but 46% of all persons arrested for rape, robbery, aggravated assault, and other assault, and 39% of all arrestees for nonfatal violent crimes excluding other assault. Hispanics, regardless of their race, were overrepresented among arrestees for nonfatal violent crimes excluding other assault (21%) relative to their representation in the U.S. population (18%).”
https://bjs.ojp.gov/content/pub/pdf/revcoa18.pdf

Apparently, White people are just not holding up their end of the effort and are making Black people look bad as a result. So, the question is: how can we get those nasty White supremacist terrorists to commit more non-fatal violent crimes? Certainly there must be some sort of incentive.

But, shush, don’t say anything about murder and negligent homicide rates. https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2019/crime-in-the-u.s.-2019/topic-pages/tables/table-43

I guess that guy Masters is just incorrigible spreading all that government data.

1. pgl

This is why I call you a racist. Ahhh – did I hurt your little KKK feelings?

Well at least this Allen J. Beck does not work for the Gun Owners of America. So a very minor improvement re the ‘credibility’ of your alleged sources. But yea – leave it to Bruce Hall to defend a racist with his own racist comment.

2. pgl

When Payton Gendron murdered all those people in East Buffalo, according to Bruce Hall he was just holding up their end of the effort. Anyone who would write such a disgusting comment has no soul:

‘White people are just not holding up their end of the effort and are making Black people look bad as a result. So, the question is: how can we get those nasty White supremacist terrorists to commit more non-fatal violent crimes? Certainly there must be some sort of incentive.’

Yea I called Brucie a racist but then he clearly is. In Bruce Hall’s world Gendron is a hero. MAGA!

20. baffling

well, i see a fair number of comments on this board defending assault rifles. but very few defending school children who are killed by assault rifles. if you are commenting in defense of assault rifles, without protecting our school children, we know where your priorities lie.

1. Barkley Rosser

baff,

No, out local gun nuts here do not “defend assault rifles.” What they like to do is argue that nobody besides them knows how to define what constitutes an “assault rifle,” and so nobody besides them has any right to open their mouths about anything having to do with guns. Only they, who spend much of their time stroking their guns and getting their rocks off by firing off hundreds of rounds in short periods of time from all kinds of them, have the right to open their mouths to pontificate on these matters. Everybody else should bow down and shut up in recognition of their superior knowledge of the fine point distinctions between one mass killer gun and another.

1. CoRev

Barkley, wow! How can anyone get everything wrong? Please quote from the comments that support your understanding of the issues. This comment exemplifies the problematic understanding: “…shut up in recognition of their superior knowledge of the fine point distinctions between one mass killer gun and another.”

Define mass killings and the gun(s) used. If you can/will not define them then stop ignorantly opining.

1. Barkley Rosser

CoRev,

That is a good question how you manage to get so many things wrong. Note that I never said, and never have in the past, that you get EVERYTHING wrong. But you certainly have quite a track record of getting very many things wrong. And, yes, when I talk about our local gun nuts trying to shut others up by going on and on about the details of this and that major killer gun, that would be you and Bruce Hall.

2. pgl

“Define mass killings and the gun(s) used. ”

Gee CoRev – did your parents never buy you a dictionary? I guess that explains why your comments are always such barking gibberish!

2. CoRev

Baffled – coward, another equivocation error. “school children who are killed by assault rifles. please define an assault rifle, and explain to us how IT killed those school children and not the person holding IT and pulling ITS trigger.

I have no faith that you will attempt an explanation just like you never responded to the request to support your “false” claim in the TX electricity thread and you failure to pose an actual question to econned.

1. pgl

Please define this or that? Is that all you got? Lord – Barkley is right sort of. You are a barking dog. A barking dog chasing its own tail. Hey CoRev – you need to go help your fellow terrorists pack the pickup truck with rifles and hundreds of rounds of bullets as they are ready to go on more shooting rampages!

2. pgl

What was false again? Oh – the fossil fuels did well but the sun was not bright enough? I have to give it to you for repeating the same tired old lie over and over again.

3. 2slugbaits

CoRev Instead of getting wrapped around the axle bickering over the definition of an assault rifle, why not just list characteristics that should be outlawed? For example, guns that accept certain kinds of ammo capable of velocities several times the speed of sound and are designed to tumble rather than exit the body should be outlawed. The point of 5.56mm rounds is to induce cardiac arrest by transferring all of the round’s kinetic energy into a body, thereby spiking blood pressure. That’s why the US Army replaced .30 caliber rifles with the M16. It could kill an enemy soldier even if it hit what would have been a survivable wound with a .30 caliber round. Another characteristic that should be outlawed are large magazines. A US combat soldier is outfitted with one 30 round magazine in the weapon and carries an additional six 30 round cartridges on his or her person, for a total of 210 rounds. Some of the recent mass shooters carried more ammo that a US Army infantryman in combat. That’s ridiculous. Another characteristic of an assault rifle is its relatively light weight. I’ve heard some NRA gun nuts tell me that its light weight makes it ideal for young novice shooters. No doubt that’s true. But do we really want to encourage young novice shooters to be running around with AR-15 style weapons? Really? If you’re too weak to carry a conventional rifle, then you shouldn’t be carrying any gun let alone an AR-15. And if you’re too much of a novice to know how to fire a conventional rifle, then you shouldn’t even own a gun at all.

I have family members who own AR-15s. Only one of them uses an AR-15 at a shooting range in order to keep his riflery skills sharp. He commanded a company of Marines in Helmand Province and quite frankly developed a kind of weird relationship with his weapon. Two other family members only display their AR-15s in expensive cases. Again, it’s kind of a perverse fetish more than anything else. Do you have a perverse fetish with your guns?

1. CoRev

The .30 caliber gun you are talking about is the M1 carbine version of the M1 Garand. The more common version of the M1 Garand was the 30-06 caliber rifle, which was replaced by the M14 not the M16 rifle. The M16 rifle replaced the M14.

Remember your comment that the 5.56 round was only good for killing a person? But now you claim: “The point of 5.56mm rounds is to induce cardiac arrest by transferring all of the round’s kinetic energy into a body, thereby spiking blood pressure.” I guess deer don’t have hearts and blood pressure.

This logic make no sense. You’re now talking gibberish like Bierka: ” But do we really want to encourage young novice shooters to be running around with AR-15 style weapons? Really? If you’re too weak to carry a conventional rifle, then you shouldn’t be carrying any gun let alone an AR-15. And if you’re too much of a novice to know how to fire a conventional rifle, then you shouldn’t even own a gun at all. ”

So lets outlaw AR-15s. Then Ar-14s, 13s, 16, or any re-named version can be built and sold. Or magazines capable of holding1 less than the limit, then more magazines of lesser capacity will be sold. Resulting in: “Some of the recent mass shooters carried more ammo that a US Army infantryman in combat. That’s ridiculous. ” Pistol grips, barrel length and the other visual characteristics often mentioned are easily modified, but do not make a rifle an assault weapon.

2slugs you were doing so well until you had to personalize. Do you have a perverse aversion to guns?

2. baffling

“Instead of getting wrapped around the axle bickering over the definition of an assault rifle, why not just list characteristics that should be outlawed?”
well stated. the public has shown there are characteristics they are not comfortable with. I don’t mind a rifle used for hunting. an assault rifle is something that permits large loss of life in a short amount of time. we can get rid of guns with those characteristics, and not impact the general gun public in the least.

1. CoRev

Baffled, even another ignorant comment. Please learn something about the subject you discuss. ” the public has shown there are characteristics they are not comfortable with.” Show us the link to this.

2. baffling

NEW POLLING ON GUNS — We have a new POLITICO/Morning Consult poll conducted entirely after the shooting in Uvalde, offering a snapshot of the mood of American voters at this moment in time, and where they stand on a variety of gun reform proposals (Toplines … Crosstabs). Here’s a rundown of what we found:

Requiring background checks on all gun sales: Eighty-eight percent strongly or somewhat support; 8% strongly or somewhat oppose. Net approval: +80
Creating a national database with info about each gun sale: Seventy-five percent strongly or somewhat support; 18% strongly or somewhat oppose. Net approval: +57
Banning assault-style weapons: Sixty-seven percent strongly or somewhat support; 25% strongly or somewhat oppose. Net approval: +42
Preventing sales of all firearms to people reported as dangerous to law enforcement by a mental health provider: Eighty-four percent strongly or somewhat support; 9% strongly or somewhat oppose. Net approval: +75
Making private gun sales and sales at gun shows subject to background checks: Eighty-one percent strongly or somewhat support; 11% strongly or somewhat oppose. Net approval: +70
Requiring all gun owners to store their guns in a safe storage unit: Seventy-seven percent strongly or somewhat support; 15% strongly or somewhat oppose. Net approval: +62
if you step out of the echo chamber, you will see your views are in the minority these days corev.

3. CoRev

Baffled – coward, more deflection. You were asked to confirm your own quote: . ” the public has shown there are characteristics they are not comfortable with.”

You were not asked to confirm some raving generality ” assault-style weapons”. What are the characteristics of this assault-style weapons?

4. CoRev

Baffled, finding these characteristics must be real easy, as Bierka assures us they are in the dictionary. He should be able to help you.

21. pgl

“who spend much of their time stroking their guns and getting their rocks off by firing off hundreds of rounds”

Now give Bruce Hall a break. What else is he supposed to do now that his wife has divorced him.

22. baffling

1. Laws requiring a gun purchaser to obtain a license from law enforcement to verify their identity and ensure they’re not prohibited are supported by more than 75% of Americans, 63% of gun owners, and 70% of Republicans
2. Laws that allow for the temporary removal of firearms during elevated risk are supported by more than 75% of Americans, more than two-thirds of gun owners, and 75% of Republicans
3. Laws prohibiting gun possession by individuals who are subject to a temporary domestic violence restraining order are supported by 81% of Americans, 74% of gun owners, and 80% of Republicans
4. Laws prohibiting the possession or purchase of handguns by individuals under the age of 21 are supported by two-thirds of Americans and more than half of gun owners and Republicans
5. Laws requiring purchasers of semiautomatic rifles to be at least 21 years old are supported by 73% of Americans, 60% of gun owners, and 70% of Republicans
good work by some folks at Johns Hopkins University.
https://hub.jhu.edu/2022/06/03/gun-policies-that-are-effective-and-supported-by-gun-owners/

1. CoRev

Baffled – coward, can you tell us what and where these above listed gun policies would be new? AFAIK most of these are already enacted especially in metropolitan areas.

1. pgl

Oh gee – CoRev the master lawyer. How do you tell when he is lying. His lips are moving. BTW NYC may have decent gun controls which is why most of the killers you defend bought their guns somewhere else. And you salute these criminals.

2. Noneconomist

Way back when, my high school-by state law-had mandatory behind the wheel training (6 hours?) taught by a faculty member. Get certified for that and you were ready for the written test (40 questions). Pass that one, and you were ready for a driving test with the steel faced guy from DMV. If you successfully parallel parked the Plymouth, you were almost licensed. All you needed was Mom and Dad to insure you in case the worst happened out on the road.
Even today, having passed 70, I have to renew my license every five years with a written test, eye check, brief discussion with a DMV agent.
Safe to say, staying behind the wheel is far more taxing than purchasing guns. After a 16 year old goes through many of the same hoops, he can wait a couple years and purchase an item far more dangerous than the car he drives.
I believe the Uvalde shooter demonstrated that.
Seems a weapon designed for use in military and law enforcement is far dangerous than the old Plymouth ever was. And you don’t have to be trained, licensed, and insured to use one.

2. pgl

It is not enough for a city such as mine to enact these sensible laws if other places allow unrestricted gun access. NYC cannot keep people from Hicksville USA from packing up the pickup truck with weapons of mass destructive and driving here.

But see CoRev the put bull’s latest spin. No CoRev probably would help the domestic terrorist pack the pickup truck.

1. Barkley Rosser

pgl,

Reportedly SCOTUS is about to take away your city’s right to regulate who can carry a gun in the street, overturning a New York state law that has been on the books for a century. Oh, that will be quite a spectacle if they really follow through on that in the current situation.

1. pgl

If one has a gun on Broadway, it is way too easy to take that gun onto the subway. Sorry but NYC is tired of jerks from other states bringing guns onto the way we get to work.

3. pgl

“Similarly, states across the U.S. have lowered or removed restrictions for the concealed carry of firearms, including permitless carry, Crifasi said, despite the lack of support for such policies.”

I guess CoRev is too busy barking and asking for definitions of the easiest things to have read this. If western Pennsylvania has lax laws – in CoRev’s world no one in NYC needs to be worried that someone would not load up the pickup truck with AR 15’s and hundreds of rounds of bullets and drive east. Even though CoRev would be the first to help this domestic terrorists pack the truck.

23. pgl

https://crooksandliars.com/2022/06/rep-buck-absurd-defense-ar-15s-preferred

Ken Buck is being mocked for saying the AR 15 is needed to kill raccoons. Now wait a second – on my early morning runs in the park I often encounter raccoons which quite frankly is a bit scary. So maybe just maybe Buck is onto something. Oh wait – carrying a rifle is not exactly something I want to be doing on a long run. I guess I could manage carrying just a pistol but I have not needed to do that. It turns out it is easy just to run around the raccoons who are usually more scared of me than I am of them.

But yea gun nuts like Buck, Bruce Hall, and CoRev are incapable of basic running so they have to show their “manhood” using a military assault weapon against small animals. MAGA!

1. Noneconomist

For many years, long time neighbor has protected his many chickens with a .22. More than a few raccoons (skunks and foxes and a bobcat here and there too) have had their last chicken at that enclosure.
Remind self:tell neighbor he needs an AR 15 to do the job properly.
BTW, raccoons here are nasty and pretty bold. I give them a wide berth.

1. pgl

My late dear grandpa has chickens. He never needed an assault weapon to keep anyone safe – even when he got really old. But poor little CoRev and Brucie are not REAL men unless they are carrying an AR 15. Woosie boys they are.

1. pgl

Is this your new line? Weak even for you. Hey little boy – be a REAL man and get your AR 15 because all the little kiddies are laughing at you.