As a transplant to this state, I am always amazed at what I learn about the people who represent the residents of this state. From “‘Get The F— Out’: Wisconsin Congressman Curses Out High School Pages In Capitol…” (Forbes)
[Wisconsin representative Derrick] Van Orden called the pages “lazy s****” and told them to “get the f*** up” as they were lying on the floor of the Rotunda and taking pictures of the building’s dome…
Van Orden also called the pages “jackasses,” “pieces of s—,” and told them he didn’t “give a f***” who” they were…
As the article details, Representative van Orden has trouble with pages in general.
Representative van Orden was incensed that the pages were lying in the rotunda. He apparently was not incensed at the storming of the Capitol on January 6, 2021, as recounted in the Washington Examiner (not a notably left-wing publication).
As I understand it van Orden is not a crazy right winger. He’s a piece of s— who ought to get the f*** out of Congress, but he’s what passes for a moderate among today’s Republicans.
just general babbling here, nothing said “in retort” to the post, which I like
I was born in the state of Iowa (which for many years on a state level has had some of the best public schools in the nation). Lived the first 5 years of my life in Iowa, and spent many family summer vacations there. Spent the vast majority of my life in Oklahoma (having somewhere ranked in the bottom 5 states in public education perennially), and if you count driving semi through and interacting with folks on interstates, rural towns, large cities, and factories and shipping docks etc, I have experienced all 48 contiguous states, 3+ times in Canada, “sort of” in Mexico 3 times. And 7 years in China. Other places I’m leaving out so as not to be terribly easily identifiable.
One of the many things I have learned?? Dumb*sses are everywhere. If we’re talking south of Mason Dixie some places have more dumb*sses than others. I had some mainland Chinese colleagues and some mainland Chinese college students who spoke and wrote better English than the typical person I met, in say Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama, and really, often better than the state I currently reside in. My Ex-GF was from Chaoyang which is one of the poorest city/regions in all of China. Some orange colored narcissist former president might even refer to Chaoyang as a sh**hole. Not to ME it wasn’t. Chaoyang was a town/city that something very special and delightful originated out of. But there she was studying mathematics at a “Teachers College” or “Normal University” arguably the 2nd best school in that province. And could hardly mutter 6 English sentences correct when I met her, to in months ranking somewhere in the top 5 of mainland Chinese I knew in speaking English and vocabulary.
My Dad grew up a bastard child (literally) on a Midwest farm, poor as hell, one time telling me he thought he went an entire summer as a child without taking a bath, using ripped out Sears catalogue in the “out house” for toilet paper, with no one else in his family (including his two siblings) having attended college to (with the GI Bill) getting his Master’s in Education. He went on to be a guy who regular took showers and took them all over Europe, Tahiti, Hawaii (where he also attended university) and even took some nice hot baths in Japan (with some attendants, wink wink?? We’ll never know). People go to and where they want for the most part (In America anyway, arguably many nations), and “the cream of the crop” has a way of finding itself somewhere better than where it started. Generally speaking.
Those pages, for example, are “the cream of the crop”, and likely if Van Useless doesn’t want them in the Capitol, they can avoid him. And if he “sponsored” them, I bet they can find other Senate sponsors if they ask around. They are very likely “going places” or “going somewhere in life” or wouldn’t have found themselves in the rotunda as volunteers to begin with. I’m damned near jealous of them come to think of it.
Just kind of random “weekend reading” here.
I had high hopes for Andrew Yang. I saw the potential for great leadership from him. Then my hopes for Andrew just slowly slowly slowly fizzled, until I found out, he was just 1/2 level above the “My Pillow” guy:
https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2023/08/04/andrew-yang-forward-party-00109231
I consider myself to be very perceptive about people in general. I think I have a “sensitive antenna”. Honestly I do. But sometimes people surprise me. Unfortunately, often to the downside.
I was hoping for an Adlai Stevenson, a Patrick Moynihan, a (in his middle aged years) Patrick Leahy, a Carl Albert, a Fred R. Harris.
Oh Andrew….Andrew……. what did you give my expectations?? Andrew…… ?? How didst thou repugnantly mutate into……. a My Pillow kinda guy???
“believing it is better to not take a stand on voting issues than plant a flag and alienate people”
That is the essence of their election strategy. ” If we don’t alienate anybody, they will all vote for us”. But it is not something that can be used to govern or legislate. The sad truth and math of a “winner takes all” democracy is that you end up with a two party system.
There is a theme that is increasingly apparent in Russia-favoring propaganda these days; the West or NATO is loosing, Russia is winning. The fact is, NATO is not at war with Russia. Russia is at war with Ukraine and not doing all that well. NATO is assisting Ukraine in defending itself. To pretend that NATO is loosing a war it isn’t even fighting is an effort to change the subject.
The joke early in the (renewed) war was that Russia had been seen as having the second most powerful military in the world bwfore attacking Ukraine, and is seen as having the second most powerful military in Ukraine after. I would not be surprised (that is, I strongly suspect) that Russia has been waiting for the opportunity to roll out a “NATO is loosing” campaign for the better part of a year, as an effort to weaken public support for aid to Ukraine. Slow progress in the counter-offensive is that opportunity.
It’s very likely a made-in-Moskow product. Yves Smith and Jeffrey Sachs and our very own troll choir are just the sort to stitch a “made-by-me” label over the top of the original. The reality is the same as it was. Russia has its hands full holding territory in a country with less than a third the population of Russia.
Ducky might enjoy reading about the Afghanistan IG’s report: “Final inspector general report details all the ways the U.S. failed in Afghanistan.” https://www.militarytimes.com/flashpoints/afghanistan/2021/08/17/final-inspector-general-report-details-all-the-ways-the-us-failed-in-afghanistan/ [The US put boots on the ground only after the “freedom fighters” it trained decided to attack the US!]
David Petraeus’ infamous surge assured victory in Iraq! [The US put boots on the ground again in 2003 only after a frustrating decade of not being able to get rid of Saddam.]
Oh, and then there was General Westmoreland’s infamous “light at the end of the tunnel” in Vietnam. [The US put boots on the ground after a frustrating decade after its South Vietnamese proxy proved ineffective in stopping the guerillas.]
Of course that was so THEN…Ukraine is NOW. This time it will be different! Alternatively, insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result…
Why, exactly, would I want to read a secondary source? What, exactly, does the IG’s report on U.S. in Afghanistan have to do with Russia’s invasion of Ukraine?
Johnny will do anything to distract from Russia’s illegal, immoral, inhuman war in Ukraine.
militarytimes did us a favor by identifying the most important conclusions–
“The U.S. government continuously struggled to develop and implement a coherent strategy for what it hoped to achieve.”
“The U.S. government consistently underestimated the amount of time required to rebuild Afghanistan and created unrealistic timelines and expectations that prioritized spending quickly. These choices increased corruption and reduced the effectiveness of programs.”
“Many of the institutions and infrastructure projects the United States built were not sustainable.”
“Counterproductive civilian and military personnel policies and practices thwarted the effort…”
“The U.S. government did not understand the Afghan context and therefore failed to tailor its efforts accordingly.”
“U.S. government agencies rarely conducted sufficient monitoring and evaluation to understand the impact of their efforts.”
It’s pretty clear that the US was pretty clueless in Afghanistan (and in Vietnam and Iraq)…but we, the taxpayers, are supposed to know believe that the military has magically gotten its act together and understands what it’s advising Ukraine today? Ducky certainly believes so!!!
Reports from the NY Times suggest otherwise: “Ukrainian Troops Trained by the West Stumble in Battle
Ukraine’s army has for now set aside U.S. fighting methods and reverted to tactics it knows best…Ukraine’s decision to change tactics is a clear signal that NATO’s hopes for large advances made by Ukrainian formations armed with new weapons, new training and an injection of artillery ammunition have failed to materialize, at least for now.
It raises questions about the quality of the training the Ukrainians received from the West and about whether tens of billions of dollars’ worth of weapons, including nearly $44 billion worth from the Biden administration, have been successful in transforming the Ukrainian military into a NATO-standard fighting force.” https://www.nytimes.com/2023/08/02/us/politics/ukraine-troops-counteroffensive-training.html
More evidence that the US is engaged in yet another pointless and futile war…because, like Ducky, it is pretty clueless.
JohnH: You won’t find disagreement from me on Iraq in this blog (nor on Vietnam, but that’s only because it’s before the advent of the blog). What do you say about South Korea? Should we have left it to the tender mercies of Kim Il-Sung?
Human rights counted for virtually nothing in the Korean War.
“The Korean War was among the most destructive conflicts of the modern era, with approximately 3 million war fatalities and a larger proportional civilian death toll than World War II or the Vietnam War. It incurred the destruction of virtually all of Korea’s major cities, thousands of massacres by both sides, including the mass killing of tens of thousands of suspected communists by the South Korean government, and the torture and starvation of prisoners of war by the North Koreans. North Korea became among the most heavily bombed countries in history. Over the course of the war 1.5 million North Koreans are estimated to have fled North Korea.”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean_War
“The United States dropped more bombs — 635,000 tons — on North Korea than in the whole Pacific Theater during World War II, including large quantities of its new incendiary weapon, napalm. Most cities suffered between 75 percent and 90 percent destruction from the bombardment. As many as 1.5 million North Korean civilians may have died, many from bombing or its consequences…
At the start of the war, “After the massacres in Jeju, Rhee Syngman’s US-sponsored government in South Korea embarked on a plan to eliminate communists from the country. It passed stringent national-security legislation and used the old Japanese colonial technique of “conversion,” whereby the authorities forced swaths of the population considered suspect to join an organization of converts called the National Guidance League. When the war between North and South began in earnest in the summer of 1950, agents of the South Korean regime rounded up members of the League, along with many thousands of political prisoners, and proceeded to massacre them and bury them in mass graves.
To this day, mass graves are still being excavated around the country, often by private organizations or local administrations, in the absence of proper backing from the national government.” https://jacobin.com/2020/06/korean-war-seventieth-anniversary-north-korea-south
Instead of leaving it to the tender mercies of Kim Il-Sung, South Korea was left to the tender mercies of Rhee Syngman and then Park Chung Hee.
But, hey, it wasn’t about human rights, it was about global primacy.
Yet again – you failed to address what Macroduck said. This war is pointless and futile but it is your boy Putin that is waging it.
When our host Jonny boy this:
What do you say about South Korea? Should we have left it to the tender mercies of Kim Il-Sung?
Jonny boy failed to address this either. No Jonny boy is not interested in an honest discussion.
I think I understand why Johnny is rambling about various U.S. military this-and-thats in response to my revealing Russia’s latest astroturf scheme. I let the new theme out of the bag BEFORE Johnny had a chance to use it. Man, that must be frustrating!
I’m rather pleased with have gotten in Johnny’s way.
Jonny boy ducks your questions routinely. He even ducked Dr. Chinn’s question about Korea. I wonder if Jonny boy really thinks the citizens of North Korea are better off than the citizens of South Korea. If he does – let’ have him move there.
I hope he does enjoy reading your diversions there but that has NOTHING to do with what he noted. There is no excuse for Putin’s war crimes but we know Putin’s loyal pet poodle will come up with all sorts of irrelevant spin so little Jonny boy gets to watch the Kremlin tapes of Ukrainian children being killed. It is what turns Jonny on.
There are rumors that Putin’s lackeys in Belarus intend to attack Poland. If they do – Article V means NATO will enter this war, which of course will be the end of Putin.
There is a bit of treaty-regarding cleverness in using Belarus as a proxy. NATO members have a treaty obligation to defend Poland, but not to attack Russia. Similarli, Wagner isn’t Russia, though it is Russian.
Russia opening another front against the West without risking outright war looks like a possibility. NATO governments, in response, might let Ukraine off the leash, using long-range weapons more overtly against Russian territory. It’s a bad scenario.
The diplomatic gathering in Saudi Arabia and China’s recent limits on drone exports could be an effort to signal Russia that escalation isn’t welcome.
interesting topic….
78 years ago today, ltr mentioned at angry bear the us army air forces under curt lemay blew Hiroshima up with an atomic weapon.
and some in usa seem to think it okay to expand nato up to russias large arsenal of nuclear devices.
empires expand, and neighbor do not have to endure.
thin referral to Melian dialog, which relates to the Thucydides trap…
The Putin narratives are getting to look more and more desperate. NATO can/will not continue its support (as if spending less than 5% of its GDP is a big deal). Ukraine was supposed to get X done within Y weeks and since they didn’t, they are not going to get anything done ever – so they will lose. To me its a sign that they know how bad their situation is and that it is getting worse.
The thing that is not being said openly is that Putin has to lose this fight slowly, because of the risk that if the loose quickly, he may think that his best option is to grab the nukes. People in trouble always look for the closest door to get out. Putin always has to be seeing other doors than the one to his nuclear arsenal. The good news is that most of his generals know they would be blamed, so they are in no rush to tell him the truth.
Not to mention that Russia’s goal of preventing NATO expansion has backfired.
I have no idea who the Representative is, and prefer not to know, but the leaders of the House from both Parties have an obligation to speak to the member in question and ask that the member receive extensive psychological assistance or confront a censure motion. This should happen immediately, since the behavior of the Representative unless addressed brings disrepute to the House.
@ ltr
I heard about your problems entering into Russia. My prayers are with you and a sympathy card is already in the snail mail. I don’t care about any of those rumors about indiscretions with a Borzoi Wolfhound. I know you’re better than that.
https://www.politico.eu/article/china-citizen-denied-entry-embassy-moscow-russia-border-incident/
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I heard about your problems entering into Russia.
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I heard about your problems entering into Russia.
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I heard about your problems entering into Russia.
[ Imagine such a monster of intimidation. Notice the crazed psycho-sexual attack. ]
@ ltr You have a dirty/filthy mind. I meant the dog bite you got from the Russian Border guard dog. Why did you have to go there?? I suspect you’ve been making too many visits to the Chinese bath house again. Naughty little boy. I’m telling your 妈妈
https://econbrowser.com/archives/2023/03/china-signals-stability-with-surprise-move-to-keep-pboc-governor#comment-295379
March 12, 2023
BTW, where is “—”?? Is he drawing the water for Li Keqiang’s bath and prepping his hands for Li’s first post-retirement full-body rubdown?? I mean, I know “—” loves China, but this is taking it too far.
BTW, where is “—”?? Is he drawing the water for Li Keqiang’s bath and prepping his hands for Li’s first post-retirement full-body rubdown?? I mean, I know “—” loves China, but this is taking it too far.
BTW, where is “—”?? Is he drawing the water for Li Keqiang’s bath and prepping his hands for Li’s first post-retirement full-body rubdown?? I mean, I know “—” loves China, but this is taking it too far.
[ Notice the crazed psycho-sexual attack. ]
To be honest, I view myself more as a sexual psycho than psycho-sexual. I credit Benny Hill as one of my great influences. None of that damned literature to flip past like in Playboy, just straight to the depravity.
http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/1946/08/31/hiroshima
August 31, 1946
Hiroshima
By JOHN HERSEY
I—A NOISELESS FLASH
At exactly fifteen minutes past eight in the morning, on August 6, 1945, Japanese time, at the moment when the atomic bomb flashed above Hiroshima, Miss Toshiko Sasaki, a clerk in the personnel department of the East Asia Tin Works, had just sat down at her place in the plant office and was turning her head to speak to the girl at the next desk. At that same moment, Dr. Masakazu Fujii was settling down cross-legged to read the Osaka Asahi on the porch of his private hospital, overhanging one of the seven deltaic rivers which divide Hiroshima; Mrs. Hatsuyo Nakamura, a tailor’s widow, stood by the window of her kitchen, watching a neighbor tearing down his house because it lay in the path of an air-raid-defense fire lane; Father Wilhelm Kleinsorge, a German priest of the Society of Jesus, reclined in his underwear on a cot on the top floor of his order’s three-story mission house, reading a Jesuit magazine, Stimmen der Zeit; Dr. Terufumi Sasaki, a young member of the surgical staff of the city’s large, modern Red Cross Hospital, walked along one of the hospital corridors with a blood specimen for a Wassermann test in his hand; and the Reverend Mr. Kiyoshi Tanimoto, pastor of the Hiroshima Methodist Church, paused at the door of a rich man’s house in Koi, the city’s western suburb, and prepared to unload a handcart full of things he had evacuated from town in fear of the massive B-29 raid which everyone expected Hiroshima to suffer. A hundred thousand people were killed by the atomic bomb, and these six were among the survivors. They still wonder why they lived when so many others died. Each of them counts many small items of chance or volition—a step taken in time, a decision to go indoors, catching one streetcar instead of the next—that spared him. And now each knows that in the act of survival he lived a dozen lives and saw more death than he ever thought he would see. At the time, none of them knew anything.
The Reverend Mr. Tanimoto got up at five o’clock that morning. He was alone in the parsonage, because for some time his wife had been commuting with their year-old baby to spend nights with a friend in Ushida, a suburb to the north. Of all the important cities of Japan, only two, Kyoto and Hiroshima, had not been visited in strength by B-san, or Mr. B, as the Japanese, with a mixture of respect and unhappy familiarity, called the B-29; and Mr. Tanimoto, like all his neighbors and friends, was almost sick with anxiety. He had heard uncomfortably detailed accounts of mass raids on Kure, Iwakuni, Tokuyama, and other nearby towns; he was sure Hiroshima’s turn would come soon. He had slept badly the night before, because there had been several air-raid warnings. Hiroshima had been getting such warnings almost every night for weeks, for at that time the B-29s were using Lake Biwa, northeast of Hiroshima, as a rendez-vous point, and no matter what city the Americans planned to hit, the Super-fortresses streamed in over the coast near Hiroshima. The frequency of the warnings and the continued abstinence of Mr. B with respect to Hiroshima had made its citizens jittery; a rumor was going around that the Americans were saving something special for the city.
Mr. Tanimoto is a small man, quick to talk, laugh, and cry. He wears his black hair parted in the middle and rather long; the prominence of the frontal bones just above his eyebrows and the smallness of his mustache, mouth, and chin give him a strange, old-young look, boyish and yet wise, weak and yet fiery. He moves nervously and fast, but with a restraint which suggests that he is a cautious, thoughtful man. He showed, indeed, just those qualities in the uneasy days before the bomb fell. Besides having his wife spend the nights in Ushida, Mr. Tanimoto had been carrying all the portable things from his church, in the close-packed residential district called Nagaragawa, to a house that belonged to a rayon manufacturer in Koi, two miles from the center of town. The rayon man, a Mr. Matsui, had opened his then unoccupied estate to a large number of his friends and acquaintances, so that they might evacuate whatever they wished to a safe distance from the probable target area. Mr. Tanimoto had had no difficulty in moving chairs, hymnals, Bibles, altar gear, and church records by pushcart himself, but the organ console and an upright piano required some aid. A friend of his named Matsuo had, the day before, helped him get the piano out to Koi; in return, he had promised this day to assist Mr. Matsuo in hauling out a daughter’s belongings. That is why he had risen so early….
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/06/science/obama-unlikely-to-vow-no-first-use-of-nuclear-weapons.html
September 5, 2016
Obama Unlikely to Vow No First Use of Nuclear Weapons
By DAVID E. SANGER and WILLIAM J. BROAD
President Obama, who has weighed ruling out a first use of a nuclear weapon in a conflict, appears likely to abandon the proposal after top national security advisers argued that it could undermine allies and embolden Russia and China, according to several senior administration officials.
Mr. Obama considers a reduction in the role of nuclear weapons as critical to his legacy. But he has been chagrined to hear critics, including some former senior aides, argue that the administration’s second-term nuclear modernization plans, costing up to $1 trillion in coming decades, undermine commitments he made in 2009….
To suggest Obama wanted to start a nuclear war is so disgustingly dishonest. Yea I bet Xi wants to nuke Taiwan and you are laying the foundation to excuse this horrible act. ltr – war criminal.
“Mr. Obama considers a reduction in the role of nuclear weapons as critical to his legacy.”
He wanted to do so but Putin and Xi did not. And our resident war criminal ltr will soon be excusing a PRC nuclear assault on Taiwan.
You should be banned from this forum unless you renounce the PRC aggression towards Taiwan.
— – war criminal.
— – war criminal.
— – war criminal.
And our resident war criminal — will soon be excusing a PRC nuclear assault on ——.
You should be banned from this forum unless you renounce the PRC aggression towards ——.
And our resident war criminal — will soon be excusing a PRC nuclear assault on ——.
You should be banned from this forum unless you renounce the PRC aggression towards ——.
And our resident war criminal — will soon be excusing a PRC nuclear assault on ——.
You should be banned from this forum unless you renounce the PRC aggression towards ——.
[ Stalking and intimidation, over and over and over. ]
You are endorsing Xi’s upcoming invasion of Taiwan. Therefore you are endorsing war crimes. Rather than whine that people are being mean to you – own up to your positions.
Or you might reject what Xi intends in advance. If you had an ounce of decency and integrity you would do so.
https://www.cbo.gov/system/files/2021-05/57130-Nuclear-Forces.pdf
May, 2021
Projected Costs of U.S. Nuclear Forces, 2021 to 2030
The Congressional Budget Office is required by law to project the 10-year costs of nuclear forces every two years. This report contains CBO’s projections for the period from 2021 to 2030.
• If carried out, the plans for nuclear forces delineated in the Department of Defense’s (DoD’s) and the Department of Energy’s (DOE’s) fiscal year 2021 budget requests, submitted in February 2020, would cost a total of $634 billion over the 2021–2030 period, for an average of just over $60 billion a year, CBO estimates.
• Almost two-thirds of those costs would be incurred by DoD; its largest costs would be for ballistic missile submarines and intercontinental ballistic missiles. DOE’s costs would be primarily for nuclear weapons laboratories and supporting activities.
• The current 10-year total is 28 percent higher than CBO’s most recent previous estimate of the 10-year costs of nuclear forces, $494 billion over the 2019–2028 period.
• Almost half (about 49 percent) of the $140 billion increase in that total arises because the 10-year period covered by the current estimate begins and ends two years later than the period covered by the 2019 estimate. Thus, the period now includes two later (and more expensive) years of development in nuclear modernization programs. Also, costs in those two later years reflect 10 years of economy-wide inflation relative to the two years that drop out of the 10-year projection; that factor (in the absence of other changes to programs) accounts for about one-fourth of the 49 percent increase.
• About 36 percent of the $140 billion increase is projected to occur from 2021 to 2028—the years included in both this estimate and the 2019 estimate. That increase stems mainly from new plans for modernizing DOE’s production facilities and from DoD’s modernization programs moving more fully into production.
Oh brother. The JohnH excuse making for war crimes in full.
“If carried out, the plans for nuclear forces delineated in the Department of Defense’s (DoD’s) and the Department of Energy’s (DOE’s) fiscal year 2021 budget requests, submitted in February 2020, would cost a total of $634 billion over the 2021–2030 period, for an average of just over $60 billion a year, CBO estimates.”
Your BFF JohnH claimed this was $600 billion per year. At least you did not get the numbers so incredibly wrong.
A 1946 discussion of a 1945 horrific of war? I guess you mention this now as the PRC is releasing an 8 part documentary on how the PRC intends to invade Taiwan. I presume you will watch this with extreme joy. And I also presume you are intending to justify the PRC using nuclear warfare against Taiwan.
I also presume you are intending to justify the PRC using nuclear warfare against…
I also presume you are intending to justify the PRC using nuclear warfare against…
I also presume you are intending to justify the PRC using nuclear warfare against…
[ The nutty words of a stalking intimidator. ]
I have visited Hiroshima and the Peace Memorial Museum. https://hpmmuseum.jp/?lang=eng
https://hpmmuseum.jp/?lang=eng
It is a very sobering experience. Wandering around central Hiroshima, the epicenter of the attack is also very sobering. The day I was there, busloads of school children were learning about the catastrophe. In the 1950s US children practiced duck and cover in public schools, exercises which created awareness of the danger of nuclear war and visceral fear foreboding, even if duck and cover would have been practically useless in a real attack.
Today there is very little awareness of Hiroshima or of the Cuban Missile Crisis, when the US was on the verge of nuclear war with the Soviet Union. A nonchalant and cavalier attitude has developed among policymakers. Blinken–“Nuclear War Threat No Worse Than Climate Change.” Given the general insouciance about climate change among Americans, Blinken seems to making light of the threat of nuclear war, a troubling stance for a direct advisor to the man with the nuclear button.
Here are 10 articles CN ran on the 75th anniversary exploring the debate over the bomb:
https://consortiumnews.com/2023/08/06/78-years-from-hiroshima/
“Today there is very little awareness of Hiroshima or of the Cuban Missile Crisis”
My dad served in the Pacific in the 1940’s. He was totally aware of the former. I lived through the Cuban Missile Crisis. I presume you did not unless you were old enough to march against the Vietnam War. I did. But we know little Jonny boy could not be bothered.
You are a fraud and a coward.
As reported in the New Yorker back in 1997:
https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=forum&id=1002
I wouldnt believe Donald Trump if his tongue were notarized.
Alair Townsend, a former deputy mayor in the Koch administration, said that in late 1990’s.
pgl links to a page that contains dozens of links, nothing more!
pgl’s random insult generator is now providing a haystack of links…and we’re supposed to find the needle! Talk about incoherent and inance!!!
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/27/nyregion/trump-koch-feud-letters-new-york-city.html
You like to cite the NYTimes. This discussion noted the same thing. Of course when Jonny boy gets caught in one of his many lies, he denies, denies, denies.
pgl wasn’t even insulting you in that comment. Was it the fact he insulted Putin’s best friend that got you all hot and bothered??
Taken as a whole these are a lot of fun. 16 of them, just hit the right arrow button to scan through them all. I think my personal favorite is number 16.
https://www.politico.com/gallery/2023/08/04/the-nations-cartoonists-on-the-week-in-politics-00109659?slide=0
I liked #4. Trump doing a Nixon!
I am told John Lauro used to be a real lawyer but of late he seems to have gone Trumpian insane:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-s-lawyer-ignores-violent-insurrection-says-america-had-peaceful-transition-of-power/ar-AA1eRXjP?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=2d046880d54e4aacb354d7fbeb06be27&ei=11
Donald Trump’s attorney John Lauro has made some wild claims to defend his client, the latest of which is that America had a “peaceful transition of power” from Trump to Biden — ignoring the violence at the Capitol on Jan. 6. Trump “took what he was entitled to do,” Lauro told Chuck Todd in a Sunday interview on Meet the Press, “which was petition Vice President Pence on Jan. 6.”
“Once that petition was completed and Vice President Pence rejected his position, it was over and there was a peaceful transition of power,” he added. Pence might argue with that assertion, considering after he “rejected” Trump’s “position,” a horde of the then-president’s supporters were shouting for Pence’s execution and erecting a gallows for him in front of the Capitol. Lauro maade the same argument to CNN’s Dana Bash, saying, “The transfer of power was certainly peaceful.” “Did you see what happened on January 6? Did that look peaceful?” an incredulous Bash asked Lauro. “I’m not saying that that was in any way appropriate, but the ultimate power of the presidency was transferred to Mr. Biden,” Lauro responded.
The former president’s lawyer also attempted to justify Trump’s attempts to overturn the election as protected by the First Amendment, including pushing Pence as well as state officials to reject electors, an easily refuted argument Trump allies have been making since the indictment became public. “The defense is quite simple,” Lauro said. “President Trump believed in his heart of hearts that he had won that election. And as any American citizen, he had a right to speak out under the First Amendment. He had a right to petition governments around the government, state governments, based on his grievances that election irregularities had occurred.” Later in the interview, Lauro claimed, “Political speech is the most protected speech that we have under our Constitution. It’s important to go back and read the test of the First Amendment. So you can actually say that a government official is acting criminally. That’s protected by the First Amendment. If we lose the First Amendment rights, then heaven forbid we lose the right to freedom of the press.” “You’re not allowed to use speech, though, in order to get somebody to commit a crime,” Todd fired back.
Lauro additionally tried to alleged — both on NBC and CNN on Sunday — that Trump asking Pence to overturn electors, pressing Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger to find him votes, and asking the Arizona House speaker to interfere with his state’s electors were “aspirational” asks. Todd played audio recording of Trump telling Raffensperger he might be committing a “criminal offense” if he didn’t “find 11,780 votes” before asking Lauro, “If [Trump] had proof he won the state, why did he threaten the secretary of state with a criminal charge?” “That wasn’t a threat at all,” Lauro claimed. “What he was asking for is for Raffensperger to get to the truth. He believes that there were an excess of 10,000 votes that were counted illegally. And what he was asking for is the secretary of state to act appropriately and find these votes that were counted illegally. That was an aspirational ask. He is entitled to petition even state government.”
Lauro used the same “aspirational” defense on CNN when defending Trump asking Pence to reject electors from certain states he lost. “But what happens in the course of a constitutional discussion like this is all legal theories are discussed and analyzed,” Lauro said of the argument between Pence and Trump over electors. “And, once again, what President Trump was doing is within the reality and the realm of free speech. He’s asking his vice president, what about taking this course of action? Ultimately, his vice president rejected all of the proposals that were made… What President Trump did not do is direct Vice President Pence to do anything. He asked him in an aspirational way. Asking is covered by the First Amendment.” Rep. Dan Goldman (D-N.Y.), who served as both a federal prosecutor and as lead counsel in the first Trump impeachment inquiry, also easily dismantled Lauro’s argument. “The First Amendment protects Donald Trump if he simply makes knowingly false statements about election fraud,” Goldman wrote on Twitter last week. “The First Amendment does not protect Donald Trump if he corruptly attempts to persuade, coerce or direct others to ACT on his knowingly false beliefs.”
Wait – wait. Is this John Lauro our JohnH? Making up garbage as one goes!
A competent lawyer who first and foremost has his clients interest i mind, would never reveal the defense strategy in public. He is basically preparing the prosecution for what is supposed to be a speedy trial.
This guy is trying to get as much exposure as possible right away, so he can capitalize on celebrity. Trump is well known for not paying his lawyers and I guess the guy has to make a living somehow.
Lauro will always be invited on Fox and Friends. And maybe the Gong Show.
This is just sick. I’m not watching any of the bellicose trash but we can count on ltr and JohnH to watch all 8 episodes and report back what a wonderful thing this represents.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/china-releases-eight-part-documentary-showing-its-ability-to-attack-taiwan/ar-AA1eRYxo?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=f2ba84d357dc423bb337dc8975078c53&ei=15
China has released an eight-part documentary about its military’s readiness to attack Taiwan which showcases soldiers pledging to die invading the island if required. The first instalment of “Chasing Dreams” was aired by state broadcaster CCTV on Tuesday to mark the 96th anniversary of the People’s Liberation Army, China’s military. It features footage of military drills, particularly around Taiwan, and dramatic testimonials from dozens of soldiers. Some said they would be willing to lay down their lives for the cause of capturing the island.
This is just sick. I’m not watching any of the bellicose trash but we can count on — and —– to watch…
This is just sick. I’m not watching any of the bellicose trash but we can count on — and —– to watch…
This is just sick. I’m not watching any of the bellicose trash but we can count on — and —– to watch…
[ Of course I have no idea what is being written about, nor do I care. However, the point of the writer is always striking fear in hearts and intimidation. ]
Awww – someone is being mean to ltr. Renounce the PRC bellicose attitude towards Taiwan or get used to the decent people calling you out for being a fan of war crimes.
Awww – someone is being mean to —. Renounce…
Awww – someone is being mean to —. Renounce…
Awww – someone is being mean to —. Renounce…
[ Always but always intimidation; nutty intimidation. ]
I wonder what is often the source of hatred, violence, and mistreatment of Chinese expatriots around the world, and which country takes actions which largely initiate or spark that violence (however wrong that violence may be) ??? Hmmmmm, Gee, I wonder…… ?? Who does that??
@ ltr Do you think if the Chinese government was serious about getting rid of wet markets, that instead of destroying the lives of harmless street vendors who don’t bribe the local police and looking the other way from vendors and shippers with bad or nonexistent cross-contamination practices who bribe the PSB etc, it would give guys like donald trump less tinder for violence against Chinese expats??
What I find fascinating about mainland Chinese, is how they don’t seem to give a tinker’s damn about Chinese expats, and how someone like you daily (hourly??) works at inciting violence on Chinese expats—with zero guilt on your conscience at all.
And, ltr, that’s ignoring your other hypocrisies and celebration of violence against and mass murder of China based Uyghurs and Tibetans.
I should also have stated/included violence against Chinese Americans, and Chinese who have gained citizenship (often over multiple generations) in the nation of their choice of residence. I get worked up people, I get worked up. And then I don’t state things clearly.
My apologies for excluding the large amount of violence against these great contributors to “the American Project” or “the American Experiment”. We are genuinely grateful for their contributions, in many fields. Science, Math, Technology, Space Exploration, Railroads, Higher education, and in your bars and restaurants. ALL of their contributions are appreciated.
I mean this in a half-joking way, but in all seriousness, this could be Asian Americans and Chinese Americans greatest contribution to America (out of MANY great contributions to America):
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/asian-america/asian-americans-voted-biden-63-31-reality-more-complex-n1247171
This voting breakdown from 2020 could even be a strong indication Asian Americans are much smarter than white Americans. Go figure……..
*omitting, not “excluding”, See, I did it again.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-05-26/racism-towards-chinese-australians-continues-covid19/101099690
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-australia-china-diplomacy/one-in-five-chinese-australians-report-attacks-or-threats-amid-pandemic-rising-tensions-idUSKCN2AV0B4
From the Reuters story:
Around 5% of Australia’s population of 25 million claim Chinese ancestry, the national census shows. Half of the Lowy survey respondents were born outside mainland China, in places including Hong Kong, Malaysia and Taiwan.
“Chinese Australians were always going to be sandwiched in geopolitical tensions with (China),” said president of the Chinese Australian Forum, Jason Li.
“How we manage the rising distrust towards 1.4 million of our fellow Australians will be a significant test of our multiculturalism and our values as an open, liberal society.”
I wonder what Xi Jinping thinks will happen when he keeps inserting spies and meddlers into Australia’s internal hierarchy of government?? What does Xi think will happen to the typical harmless Chinese Australian just trying to go to work and feed their families in a free society?? Xi JInping could care less when he stirs up the hornet’s nest against Chinese living outside China, because Xi won’t be the one facing that violence.
As an indication of just how far the horrors of nuclear war have been removed from American public awareness, the New York Times did not have a single mention of Hiroshima and Nagasaki on the main web page I just pulled up.
“Biden Policy Allows First Use of Nuclear Weapons” https://www.armscontrol.org/act/2022-04/news/biden-policy-allows-first-use-nuclear-weapons
“Vladimir Putin has said the threat of a nuclear war was rising, but insisted Russia had not “gone mad” and would not use its nuclear weapons first.” https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-63893316
Nuclear war would truly be pointless and futile with a Pyrrhic victory for someone as the meager consolation. The more the war in Ukraine escalates, the greater the danger. Yet no one is interested in serious negotiations to avert the unthinkable.
Perhaps if the Putineers returned home, the unthinkable would be automatically averted, and negotiations would be much easier, even unnecessary. You, obviously, are not remotely interested in that happening. But do, please, enlighten us on your concern for world peace and avoiding nuclear war.
Obama asked Putin to continue to reduce their nuclear weapon arsenals. Putin said no. That is a fact that little Jonny boy will not address. So this Putin pet poodle diverts.
“Such a threat is growing, it would be wrong to hide it,” Putin warned while talking about the prospect of nuclear war via video link from Moscow. But he asserted that Russia would “under no circumstances” use the weapons first, and would not threaten anyone with its nuclear arsenal. “We have not gone mad, we are aware of what nuclear weapons are,” he said, adding: “We aren’t about to run around the world brandishing this weapon like a razor.” Putin also boasted that Russia had the most modern and advanced nuclear weapons in the world
Putin brags about his nuclear weapons but promises not to use them? Yea – right.
“As an indication of just how far the horrors of nuclear war have been removed from American public awareness, the New York Times did not have a single mention of Hiroshima and Nagasaki on the main web page I just pulled up.”
In just 2 seconds I found this and a lot of other NYTimes discussions of Hiroshima and Nagasaki:
https://www.nytimes.com/video/world/asia/100000005317552/hiroshima-atomic-nuclear-bomb.html
Little Jonny is a serial liar but could he not tell lies that are this easily rebutted? Damn!
“Such a threat is growing, it would be wrong to hide it,” Putin warned while talking about the prospect of nuclear war via video link from Moscow. But he asserted that Russia would “under no circumstances” use the weapons first, and would not threaten anyone with its nuclear arsenal. “We have not gone mad, we are aware of what nuclear weapons are,” he said, adding: “We aren’t about to run around the world brandishing this weapon like a razor.” Putin also boasted that Russia had the most modern and advanced nuclear weapons in the world
Putin brags about his nuclear weapons but promises not to use them? Yea – right.
Rep Van Orden is a disgrace – a military veteran do does not know firearm safety and thinks the rules do not apply to him: https://www.wpr.org/congressional-candidate-derrick-van-orden-fined-having-gun-carry-bag-iowa-airport
The rest of the WI GOP caucus in Congress are the same mix of do-nothings and know-nothings. Rep Tom “voting against the certification of his own election” Tiffany: https://wisconsinwatch.org/2023/04/did-potential-wisconsin-us-senate-candidate-tom-tiffany-vote-against-certifying-2020-election-results/ and Rep Glenn “drink a lot of Vit D fortified milk and that will protect you against Covid” Grothman https://grothman.house.gov/news/documentsingle.aspx?DocumentID=2040 (which is dumb and dangerous but I guess he thinks this will promote the dairy industry.)
Then the “moderates” Rep Gallagher and Rep.Steil – their legislative accomplishments consist mainly of sending out tweets about how expensive it is to fill up their pickups with gas and demanding voters send them back to party circuit in DC so they can clean out the swamp or get a gig with a lobbying firm.
For those keeping score at how well Dems or GOP govern (that is – their job, BTW) – The Dem 117th Congress passed, and Joe Biden signed: 362 laws. Including CHIPS act, American Rescue Plan, and a major infrastructure bill. The GOP 118th Congress has passed and the president has signed, 12 bills. And it looks like they will be spending the majority of their time and taxpayer $ investigating a private citizen for calling his father so they can impeach Joe Biden. https://newrepublic.com/article/174864/mccarthy-comer-jordan-congress-economy?
As I’ve said before – do not trust the GOP with money or governance.