Manufacturing in Recession? (Revisited)

High frequency indicators (PMI, etc.) suggest — and have suggested — a slowdown in manufacturing. Still, other indicators indicate sideways trending. Here’s a picture, incorporating the just-available manufacturing value added for Q2, as well employment incorporating the preliminary benchmark revision.

Figure 1: Manufacturing production (blue, left scale), implied employment from preliminary benchmark (tan, left scale), aggregate hours (green, left scale), and real valued added (red), all in logs, 2021M07=0, and capacity utilization in manufacturing, in % (black, right scale). Source: BLS via FRED, Federal Reserve, BLS, BEA via FRED, NBER. 

I do wonder a little about extrapolations from manufacturing to the rest of the economy. While manufacturing might be a leading indicator (that’s dubious), it’s been declining share of overall economic activity for decades.

Figure 2: Log ratio of real manufacturing value added to GDP (blue, left scale), and manufacturing to GDP share (tan, right scale). NBER defined peak-to-trough recession dates shaded gray. Orange shading denotes Trump administration. Source: BEA 2024Q2 release/annual update, NBER, and author’s calculations. 

In fact, manufacturing sector value added declined substantially in the wake Trump trade war (even before the pandemic). So, we should be interested in manufacturing to the extent that it’s a large share of the economy (about 10% in value added terms). However, the manufacturing sector could be in recession (however a sectoral recession is defined) without the rest of the economy suffering one (as defined by NBER).

 

 

11 thoughts on “Manufacturing in Recession? (Revisited)

  1. pgl

    This is soooo Trump:

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/image-of-donald-trump-walking-through-floodwaters-after-hurricane-helene-is-ai/ar-AA1rxQxa?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=9fa38c1e38a946f68359039765f1faca&ei=22

    So we have something that appears to be showing Trump wading through deep flood waters to bring aid to those affected by Helena. What’s that? It wasn’t the real Trump? It was AI generated! Now here’s the big question – was the AI generated Trump tossing out paper towels?

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  2. pgl

    “manufacturing sector value added declined substantially in the wake Trump trade war (even before the pandemic).”

    And it has risen under Biden. Huh – I wonder why fake PhD EJ Antoni never mentions this series!

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    1. dw

      well, business has moved on from manufacturing as its hard to make a large profit from it. usually management has to actually do wok and needs employees to do that work. though many have tried to avoid that with automation (doesnt seem to work as well), and out sourcing production to another company or another country (which seems to be their go to way now days. and no it doesnt matter who is in the white house they will keep dong that. short of taxing it i dont see it changing). and today we are economy of health care (which seems to be growing larger in it, something about costs being of out control. Seems to happen when people need health care), and finance and service.

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  3. Macroduck

    I’m gonna keep linking to this picture as long as people keep missing the point:

    https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/DGDSRX1

    Talking to you, recession mongers. Goods consumption jumped during the Covid lock-down and has never fallen back to the previous trend. Manufacturing is flattening out at a very high level. Here’s what shipments look like:

    https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/AMTMVS

    Funny how recession mongers pick 50-year-ago end-points one day, year-ago end-points the next, with no real concern for economic reality.

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  4. Macroduck

    Iran has launched just shy of 200 missiles at Israel. No word yet on how many arrived or on damage.

    Reports are of ballistic missiles. Our Cold War history an give a misleading impression. “Ballistic” is anything that describes a parabola in flight, typically without propulsion in the final stages of flight. No implication for the power of the weapon. In fact, ballistic missiles can be easier to intercept than cruise missiles.

    The U.S. has, of course, offered to help shoot down missiles, just like last time.

    I don’t have a good handle on motivations here. We’ve been told by all and sundry since the beginning of Israel’s war on Palestine that Iran isn’t interested in escalation. Tit for tat reactions, to maintain credibility, has been Iran’s game. Israel has recently assassinated Iranian allies and has now gone to war with one of Iran’s most powerful and longstanding proxies.

    What’s the calculation now? Don’t know. I’m sure we’ll hear from lots of people who’ll pretend they do.

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    1. dw

      dont know if his disdain is new. or not but if his ‘home’ in Florida got hit (long with that attached rest/hotel) he might very happy they are still around. insurance companies can take a long time to fund repairs. and some seem to take the estimate for repairs and cut it by up to %90 to what they will offer

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  5. pgl

    Haitian nonprofit files criminal charges against Donald Trump, JD Vance over Springfield statements
    Affidavit uses state statute allowing private citizens to file charges
    https://www.news5cleveland.com/news/local-news/haitian-nonprofit-in-springfield-files-criminal-charges-against-donald-trump-jd-vance#:~:text=The%20nonprofit%20Haitian%20Bridge%20Alliance%20filed

    The leader of the nonprofit Haitian Bridge Alliance filed charges against former president Donald Trump and his running mate, JD Vance, for the chaos that ensued from their uncorroborated statements about immigrants in Springfield, Ohio, eating pets, according to the Cleveland law firm representing the agency.
    The Chandra Law Firm says the nonprofit used a state statute allowing private citizens to “file an affidavit charging the offense committed.”

    The following charges were filed:

    Disrupting public service — by causing widespread bomb and other threats that resulted in massive disruptions to the public services in Springfield, Ohio;
    Making false alarms — by knowingly causing alarm in the Springfield community by continuing to repeat lies that state and local officials have said were false;
    Committing telecommunications harassment — by spreading claims they know to be false during the presidential debate, campaign rallies, nationally televised interviews, and social media;
    Committing aggravated menacing in violation — by knowingly making intimidating statements with the intent to abuse, threaten, or harass the recipients, including Trump’s threat to deport immigrants who are here legally to Venezuela, a land they have never known;
    Committing aggravated menacing — by knowingly causing others to falsely believe that members of Springfield’s Haitian community would cause serious physical harm to the person or property of others in Springfield; and Violating the prohibition against complicity — by conspiring with one another and spreading vicious lies that caused innocent parties to be parties to their various crimes.
    The charges were filed in Clark County Municipal Court. Through the filing, the nonprofit asks the court to affirm probable cause and to issue arrest warrants.

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  6. rjs

    there’s been a 130% increase in construction spending for new factories, most underpinned by legislation (ie, semiconductors, EVs & batteries, green new whatevers) since 2021, which would suggest that any slowdown in manufacturing will be short lived…either that or capacity utilization will tank big time…

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    1. rjs

      errata. there’s been a 230% increase in construction spending for new factories since 2021….somehow i lost 100% of the increase getting it here…

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