118 thoughts on “How Do We Know this Photo Was Actually Taken at Mar-a-Lago?

  1. ltr


    September 1, 2022

    Chinese mainland records 368 new confirmed COVID-19 cases

    The Chinese mainland recorded 368 confirmed COVID-19 cases on Wednesday, with 307 attributed to local transmissions and 61 from overseas, data from the National Health Commission showed on Thursday.

    A total of 1,689 asymptomatic cases were also recorded on Wednesday, and 23,663 asymptomatic patients remain under medical observation.

    The cumulative number of confirmed cases on the Chinese mainland is 243,449, with the death toll from COVID-19 standing at 5,226.

    Chinese mainland new locally transmitted cases


    Chinese mainland new imported cases


    Chinese mainland new asymptomatic cases


      1. Barkley Rosser

        Nobel Prizes given to US 400, given to China 1.

        ltr, will you also report the deahts of people from other causes because they could not get medical attention due to being locked down?

        1. ltr

          — will you also report the deaths of people from other causes

          [ Thank you so much for the gracious assistance. This is ever so important, but I have no knowledge of such a matter and need to have specific references. The Chinese after all are about preserving health and saving lives and show that continually. ]

          1. Macroduck

            …and show that continually by putting Uyghurs in internment camps, practicing slavery and supporting tyrannous regimes. China is all about the health of the Taiwanese, and intend to kill many, many of them during an invasion very soon.

          2. Barkley Rosser


            I have seen some stories that such deaths have happened and that there have been quite a few of them, but I have seen no story that provides specific numbers.

            BTW, apparently PRC has received three Nobel Prizes, one in peace, one in literature, and one in medicine.

          1. Barkley Rosser


            Number came from a post of yours in another thread. But maybe I misread it. You were also listing ones for people in Taiwan and ethnic Chinese in the Chinese diaspora (and maybe Hong Kong too). I had always meant just PRC when I referred to China.

          2. Moses Herzog

            Tu Youyou was born and raised in Ningbo, Zhejiang, China.

            Mo Yan born in Gaomi, Shandong province, China.

            Mo Yan ranks among the most widely published contemporary writers inside China (as opposed to émigrés and exiles), a list that also included Yu Hua, Su Tong, and Wang Shuo. Compared to his earlier years, when some of his works were banned, he has become closer to the establishment, and when it became clear he was a contender, some domestic critics lobbied hard against it. After he won, some Chinese intellectuals expressed disapproval; Mo Zhixu said the winner “doesn’t have any independent personality.” The new laureate has shied away from discussing the politics of the award, but he may find himself facing persistent questions about his willingness to stand up for Chinese writers in prison or under pressure.

            Mo Yan’s win is significant for China. It recognizes a life of writing in a difficult place to be a writer, and, one hopes, it will combat some of the paranoia and victimhood that some Chinese intellectuals still feel about their stature in the world. But, over time, one hopes that the Nobel will become less important to China. That, after all, would be the sign of a country that is exactly the kind of cultural power that China aspires to be. In 1986, an especially provocative Beijing writer declared the obsession with the Nobel “childish.” He won it twenty-four years later. His name was Liu Xiaobo, and he was awarded the prize for peace, not literature.

            Barkley, I wish you had attended my English class while I was in China, I could have put you in the back of the class and slowly explained to you the difference between “just one” and “at least one”…… “just three” and “at least three” I could have put you in a group effort and had the smarter mainland Chinese youth explain it to you. It might have been a revelatory moment for you Barkley.

            After you had mastered that I would pass you on to the math teachers in China.
            “1 Chinese national + 1 Chinese national + 1 Chinese national = ??

          3. Barkley Rosser


            = 3, as I said above. have you lost the ability to read?

            I am dropping this whole thing. Again, when I googled “Nobel Prize winners by nation,” I actually thought there were a small number from PRC, which I intended to report, although I could not name any of them. I was surprised when the source I got said it was zero, which I then reported. Three is a small number, a lot smaller than 400 or even 29. But this has run out of steam, unless you want to pick up repeating and applauding the 4 per million number ltr keeps throwing at us ad nauseum..

          4. Barkley Rosser

            BTW, Moses, we know what you were REALLY doing in China, “teaching English” indeed, pshaw! 🙂

          5. Barkley Rosser

            So, here’s a real hoot. Since Moses obsessed over this matter I decided to go back and check on my orriginal source. Oh I had it even way more wrong, but it turns out so does Moses. It looks like PRC has had 8 Nobel Prize winners according to World Population Review, although it is possible they are including ones from Hong Kong and Taiwan in that count. It is just raw numbers, so I do not know.

            Anyway, I find it hilarious that Moses somehow thinks I should not be grading students because I got this number wrong. He brags about having taught about this one winner of the lit prize, Mo Yuan. But earlier he was telling us there was only one Nobel recipient, and it was not her. So it looks that Moses is just as bad as I am on this, heck, maybe even worse.

          6. Moses Herzog

            Mo Yan is a he, and I never said I taught about him. Are you having dementia hallucinations and then getting online immediately after having hallucination episodes?? You’re getting worse. Retire before you make an egregious error that discredits your record.

      2. ltr

        [ This is what China is about. ]


        August 31, 2022

        Scientists identify new gene behind rare blood disease

        BEIJING — Chinese scientists have identified a new gene, the deficiency of which may lead to a rare, life-threatening blood disease called hemophagocytic lymphohistiocytosis (HLH).

        The illness typically occurs in early childhood, with stem cell transplantation being the only definitive curative therapy. Previous studies have found 12 risk genes, but they can explain only a small proportion of the HLH cases.

        Now a new study, * the findings of which were published in the Journal of Hematology & Oncology, may help doctors to screen the high-risk populations of the genetic disease and raise the early diagnosis and treatment rate.

        Using whole-genome sequencing technology, researchers from the Beijing Institute of Genomics under the Chinese Academy of Sciences and Beijing Children’s Hospital of the Capital Medical University, identified a novel gene called NBAS in Chinese patients with HLH.

        According to the study, which covered 237 cases, the estimated frequency of NBAS variants among the child patients was 2.11 percent, making it the second most frequently mutated gene. The first one called PRF1 has a mutation rate of 3.8 percent.

        The research is the latest example of China’s intensified research efforts to rescue millions of patients with rare diseases in the country.

        * https://jhoonline.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s13045-022-01318-z

      3. ltr

        [ This is what China is about. ]


        August 31, 2022

        China’s first domestic HPV vaccine has 100% efficacy in clinical trial

        A recent study has found that the first HPV (human papillomavirus) vaccine developed in China, Cecolin, can offer female adults full immunity against two types of the virus.

        Cecolin was jointly developed by Xiamen University and Xiamen Innovax, making China the third country in the world to attain an independent cervical cancer vaccine supply after the U.S. and the UK. It earned World Health Organization Prequalification in October 2021.

        In the study, a group of Chinese researchers analyzed data from 66 months of follow-up visits as a part of the bivalent vaccine’s Phase 3 clinical trial, and found that its efficacy against high-grade genital lesions, typical symptoms of cervical cancer, reached 100 percent….

        * https://www.thelancet.com/journals/laninf/article/PIIS1473-3099%2822%2900435-2/fulltext

          1. Moses Herzog

            Is that as effective as China’s Covid 19 vaccine?? If not, there’s gonna be a lot of women with surprise rashes bad itching and the same percentage of cancer they’ve ever had. Hmmmmm, wonder what will happen?? Well I’m sure Xi Jinping will make sure the government health statistics are accurate. They don’t call him Xi “Mr. High Quality Semiconductors” Jinping for nothing.

            Gee, and all the mainland Chinese told me China was a “conservative” culture, and all the unmarried women were virgins. Hmmmmm……. But why do they have “bath houses” every half block with a cadre of men entering the front entrance and women entering the back entrance?? And about 15–20 women who accost (trust me, I mean accost in the severest sense of the word) you giggling half-dressed at nearly every karaoke bar in China?? Oh wait, they’re “just” there to get you to buy a couple more drinks. Nothing more…… yeah, nothing more.

            Well, I’m glad I have this whole thing figured out now.

            Richard Dawson: “What word do you associate with China?? You said ‘conservative!!!!’. Survey says!!!!….. ” BZZZZZZZZ! Richard Dawson: “Huh?? That was strange. Number 1 answer….. BS City.”

        1. Ulenspiegel

          “China’s first domestic HPV vaccine has 100% efficacy in clinical trial”

          Hopefully, this vaccine will be better than the Covid vaccines produced in China.

  2. Moses Herzog

    “Where else would you find a carpet so tacky?”

    Vicious…… yet accurate.

    Professor Chinn’s dry humor coming through again. One of the few things that refills my humor/vitality tank after Letterman went off the air.

    Trump is in serious trouble, and you can tell by his grab-bagging at anything to save himself. QAnon and 4chan?? Spells out “orange man is very scared now”.

    In other news:

    Bruce Hall and CoRev will be happy to know, that’s a LOSS for trump-backed Sarah Palin, and a “flip” of a House seat for Democrats. She’s Native American and has a head on her shoulders. Uh-oh.

    1. Macroduck

      Having just won her seat, Peltola has to run again in November. Wanna guess who she’s running against? A hint: she can see Russia from her back yard.

      A big change in voter sentiment is unlikely by November, but voter turnout may increase for the November vote. Even if Alaskans don’t care to vote for Palin, she could benefit from straight Republcan ballots in a general election.

      Peltola is also likely in for some really low behavior toward her from GOP operatives on the way to November.

      1. baffling

        she is already blaming the loss on a rigged new election system. implemented by the voters of Alaska…stooopid voters will not be a good message come november.

      2. Moses Herzog

        Now I’m super confused (doesn’t take much). Does this mean Begich can still run in November, or is he done?? And will it be “straight ballot” or will it be their 1-2-3 preference rank again??

        “What’s more, that Republican underperformance disappears if you look not at the results from the final round, but rather at only first-choice votes. Sixty percent of voters selected a Republican (either Palin or Begich) as their preferred candidate, while only 40 percent selected a Democrat (Peltola), perhaps a better gauge of their actual partisan preferences. In fact, by that metric, the Alaska special election was actually an overperformance for Republicans. Their 20-point combined margin over Peltola was 5 points better than the state’s R+15 partisan lean.”


        “According to a July poll from Alaska Survey Research, 61 percent of Alaska registered voters had a negative opinion of her. It’s hard to win with those kinds of numbers.”

        1. Macroduck

          Yeah. Seems like Begich voters were really Begich voters. They didn’t show up for Palin in the final round.

      1. Anonymous

        usually satisfactory, holiday inns are on my menu if convenient. last stay was 2017 for a wedding where most of the family was staying there.

        hilton and bonvoy seem to be convenient of late

        now all leisure travel

    1. Moses Herzog

      I have to admit that made me laugh. Take it from a man who spent some time at Motel 6 in his childhood years (and in seedy neighborhoods no less), it could be worse. Just to give you a taste of how low my standards are/were~~when our family stayed at “Motel 8” or “La Quinta” in the early ’90s it almost felt like high living.

      1. baffling

        we took a month long road trip to tour the west. motel 6 was standard fair, and sometimes even had a pool. super 8 was luxury! and had to reserve them by phone from the AAA book of the current state. ah good times, hanging out in the back of the family station wagon with no seat belts. and a hand held, digital football game composed of red dashes. we had a better imagination that today’s kids…

        1. Moses Herzog

          You’re talking my language now brother. NO joking, got a warm fuzzy in my heart on that one. The simple things in life. God bless you baffling.

          Should be catching up on my library books, but something is going on on the Reuters channel on Youtube now. I hope Biden gives the speech with fire and brimstone. He can be a good speaker, but he needs to bring the energy. To hell with it if he mispronounces a couple words. Gotta bring out that 1985 Joe with swagger.

  3. pgl

    Kash Patel and other Trump minions keep telling us Trump declassified these documents. If that were true (it’s not) then why have not Trump’s lawyers asserted this “fact” in their court filings. Oh wait – maybe because it is not true and lawyers lie to courts at their own peril.

  4. pgl

    Freddie Mac released its weekly reporting on this:

    30-Year Fixed Rate Mortgage Average in the United States

    It rose from 5.55% last week to 5.66% today. Which is STILL below the 5.7% rate Princeton Steve reported a couple of weeks ago. Yes – this rate fell a bit earlier this summer but has partially gone back up.

    And no – the housing market is not cratering.

  5. pgl

    This CNN report can honestly report on mortgage rates even if Princeton Steve cannot:


    The 30-year fixed-rate mortgage averaged 5.66% in the week ending September 1, up from 5.55% the week before, according to Freddie Mac. That is significantly higher than this time last year when it was 2.87%. After starting the year at 3.22%, mortgage rates rose sharply during the first half of the year, hitting a high of 5.81% in mid-June. But since then, concerns about the economy and the Federal Reserve’s mission to combat inflation have made them more volatile. Rates had fallen in July and early August as recession fears took hold.

    Let me add one thing – over the last week the 30-year government bond yield actually fell by 10 basis points even as this mortgage rate rose by about the same amount.

  6. Moses Herzog

    “In June 2018, NARA learned from a press report in Politico that textual Presidential records were being torn up by former President Trump and that White House staff were attempting to tape them back together.”

    That’s crazy. I felt certain it was either going to be “Talking Points Memo” or “msn” that broke that story. Well, live and learn kids.

      1. Moses Herzog

        @ Macroduck
        PBS NewsHour reported within the last two days there have been multiple large city lockdowns in China. Have not looked online for info on the specific topic but have no reason to believe it’s not true. Lockdowns in multiple large cities just started spells out trouble for whatever quarter this effects. Chinese policy leaders will have to clean this up very fast for it not to effect 3rd quarter big time, and even “bleed into” (for lack of better phrase ATM) their 4th quarter. And GVCs, America etc?? Your guess would be better than mine, unless we get a Pettis update/data drop (Pettis is slow to post, maybe check his Twitter feed regular??)

        1. Macroduck

          October brings the next “president for life” vote for Xi. Taiwan, drought, flooding, lockdowns (which have drawn serious backlash from the public) all raise questions about Xi’s fitness to rule.

          That doesn’t mean Xi won’t get the votes. He’s a better politician than he is a ruler.

        2. Ivan

          This is what happens when a virus mutates to the point where previously good policies become unmanageable. Given that the current Covid variants are only 2-3 times more deadly than a bad flue strain but also substantially more infectious its time to treat this as a flue. That means vaccination with effective vaccines, lots of masking for all and advice on how to protect yourself for all vulnerable populations. The zero Covid policy is way past its due date. It’s a shame China is ruled by a dictator, even more a shame that he is a germaphobe. They will do a lot of harm to their economy before they make the inevitable switch to the only sensible way to fight the Omicron BA5 variant.

        3. Barkley Rosser

          Now now, Moses, locking down cities is how PRC keeps that number the same that ltr likes to constantly tell us about, and you seem to sympathize with her doing so since you like to repeat things a lot yourself. It is 4 per million, but maybe you forgot it, so maybe she needs to repeat it many more times just for your benefit.

          The rest of us have gotten quite tired of seeing it, but you must understand that all else must be sacrificed to that. After all, somebody saved by this might get PRC another Nobel Prize in the future!

          1. Barkley Rosser

            Yeah, terrible of me to just report the numbers I saw in the first link I came to when I googled something, and then to repeat a correction made by Moses Herzog (when I followed his word that there was one). Shame on me. I should have investigated this up the wazoo, so terriblhy important it was.

            You are so right, Moses, people can contemplate how bad I was in this matter, reporting what I saw in the first link that came up when I googled something. Shame om me. What will the taxpayers of Virginia think next?

          2. Barkley Rosser

            And, Moses, ltr will be reallyi grateful to you to have gotten that number of Nobel Prize recipients among PRC citizens up to three. I mean that is way more than the 400 the US has gotten, and completely overturns the point I was making. The CCP will be proud of you and probably give you a red star for showing the Nobel superiority of their nation over the US by such a huge margin.

        4. Moses Herzog

          At least 3 Nobel Prizes have been given to Chinese nationals. Some PhD was on here and told us many times it was zero. Then when informed by another commenter at least one Chinese national had won a Nobel, that same Phd insisted it was just one. Then when corrected again it was at least three, that same PhD begrudgingly admitted there were three Chinese nationals who had won a Nobel. Obviously that PhD is a man who cares about facts, accuracy, and getting things correct the first time he says them. Obviously.

          Folks, there’s an actual “official” Nobel Prize site where you can check these things. Again, can you imagine Junior checking his students’ essay exams, and they write down “three” in their essay how their man-child professor marks their grade?? Or worse if they voiced that answer openly in the classroom group setting, showing up the man-child PhD. That student would have a bullseye on their back clear to the end of the semester. Or does anyone here imagine it happening any other way?? What does the behavior here on this blog foreshadow how that person reacts towards others, including those he assigns grades to, when he is flat out told he’s wrong about “x, y, or z”?? It’s an open question I invite all to ponder.

        5. Barkley Rosser

          BTW, Super Secret Agent Herzog, just out of curiosity, have you read Joseph Needham? Can you list inventions made by Chinese that he discusses without googling the matter extensively?

          1. Moses Herzog

            “Physician, heal thyself”

            I’m curious what Barkley Junior thinks is so magical about googling topics, when even with the assistance of Google and the official Nobel Prize website, Barkley can’t even count up to 1, much less 3.

            This is how Barkley Junior operates. He gets the facts wrong on a world-famous prize, at least twice, he’s told he’s wrong, at least twice, and then says “But the fact I was wrong twice about tangible facts means nothing. See this shiny silver coin in my left hand?? When I make it ‘disappear and reappear’ from your left ear, it means it’s not important for a university professor to get tangible (and easily disproved or verified) facts correct.” That university professor need only insult anyone who finds him wrong on facts or flash the shiny silver coin, and he can still depict himself as God in his own mind.

            What’s the problem Junior?? Your suggestion (more like a badly veiled accusation) I was “blackmailing” your blogging pal about his privacy wasn’t sticking to the wall?? Again, your blackmail theory which seemed to enter your mind out of nowhere, makes a person wonder how you dispense student grades?? Is that a “natural” thought to occur to a college professor I wonder?? To hold something over someone like that?? A good way to keep students who dislike you in obeisance maybe, but a strange thought to occur to a person randomly.

            I used to give my Chinese students small units of American currency when they caught me mispronouncing a word or misspelling something on the whiteboard. It wasn’t like winning the lottery, but for many of them it would be the first time in their lives they held American currency in their hand, and they got a small charge out of it. It creates a healthy learning environment, where errors can be corrected without fear of personal attack. Try it sometime Barkley~~it’s a little late in your septuagenarian years to finally create an open feeling in your classroom, but just try it out.

    1. pgl

      “The city, which accounts for about 1.7% of China’s gross domestic product, is home to numerous technology companies and automakers. Foxconn Technology Group, the world’s largest assembler of Apple Inc.’s iPhones, is moving to a closed-loop manufacturing system for the iPads it makes there, according to a person familiar with the decision, while Volvo Car AB suspended work at its factory.”

      If one wanted to buy the wife a new Volvo and iPhone for her birthday – one might have to be patient. I do worry about the Chinese economy, however.

  7. Macroduck

    Off topic(?), the U.S. factory sector –

    The U.S. factory sector looked a bit healthier in August, with price increases moderate.

    U.S. August factory PMI steady at 52.8%.

    Prices index 52.5%, down from July’s 60%. The lowest reading in just over two years.

    Employment index 54.2% vs July’s 49.9%

    New orders index 51.3% vs 48% in July. 

    1. Macroduck

      Which resulted in this:

      “The GDPNow model estimate for real GDP growth (seasonally adjusted annual rate) in the third quarter of 2022 is 2.6 percent on September 1, up from 1.6 percent on August 26.”

      Johnny, remember when you were pretending that a positive but declining GDPNow estimate meant that Q3 real GDP was going to be negative? Johnny? Hello?

      1. pgl

        Johnny is busy condemning the Washington Consensus even as he praises Jeffrey Sach – the architect of the Washington Consensus. Life can be confusing when one is a Know Nothing troll standing on a soap box screaming BS.

      2. pgl


        The number of people who applied for unemployment benefits at the end of August fell to a nine-week low of 232,000, showing no sign that a slowing U.S. economy is triggering widespread layoffs. New jobless claims declined by 5,000 in the seven days ended Aug. 27 from a revised 237,000 (initially 242,000) in the prior week. The number of people applying for jobless benefits is one of the best barometers of whether the economy is getting better or worse.

        The RECESSION cheerleaders (JohnH and Princeton Steve) are having a bad day.

        1. pgl

          A few weeks ago Princeton Steve was jumping up and down that the modest increase in this series meant we were in a RECESSION or ready for that HARD RESET:


          Now that these initial claims are falling – we have not heard from our main RECESSION cheerleader. Go figure!

          1. Barkley Rosser

            But, Anonymous, now the US unemployment rate has risen! Your bet might be off! Recession is obviously just crashing down on the US economy!!!!!!

  8. ltr


    August 31, 2022

    The Arizonan attack on a governmental focus on diversity strikes me as especially important as a reflection of the paucity of health care services and coronavirus protections that have had a devastating effect on the important Indian population of Arizona. Between 2019 and 2021, there has been a loss of life expectancy of about 6 years among Indians. Life expectancy for Indians is about 65 years in 2021. *

    * https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/vsrr/vsrr023.pdf


    August 31, 2022



    Cases ( 2,254,374)
    Deaths ( 31,114)

    Deaths per million ( 4,275)


    Cases ( 243,081)
    Deaths ( 5,226)

    Deaths per million ( 4)

      1. ltr


        June 20, 1971

        Joseph Needham, the Real Thing
        By Richard Boston

        Our vocabulary for describing what is great has been so impoverished by the misuse of Hollywood publicists (Stupendous!!! Colossal!!!) that it is hard to find suitable words to describe the real thing. And Joseph Needham is the real thing: he is one of the great intellects of our time. Merely to call him a polymath gives no idea of his achievement: a fellow scholar at Cambridge University, a man who is not given to making rash judgments and who is well‐versed in the British art of understatement, recently commented to me that you have to go back to Leonardo before you can find anyone with such a grasp of the whole of human knowledge. History, philosophy, religion, mathematics, astronomy, geography, geology, seismology, physics, mechanical and civil engineering, chemistry and chemical technology, biology, medicine, sociology, economics…. just to list the topics covered in his massive “Science and Civilisation in China” would take more than the space of this article (the summary of contents in the publisher’s prospectus covers more than 12 closely printed pages.) And, at the same time as dealing with China, throughout the work Needham compares and contrasts with what was going on all over the rest of the world. In spite of Hollywood, it is stupendous, it is colossal.

        Joseph Needham, Fellow of the Royal Society and holder of the Brilliant Star of China, was born in 1900, the son of a doctor. He took his degree at Cambridge, and in 1924 became a Fellow of Gonville and Caius College, of which he is now the Master. In the same year he married a fellow‐student and fellow‐biochemist, and later Joseph and Dorothy Needham became the first husband and wife both to be made Fellows of the Royal Society.

        When he was 31, Needham published a three‐volume work on “Chemical Embryology.” This led to his “History of Embryology,” and his involvement in the history of science. Then, before the Second World War, an important influence came in the form of a group of Chinese scientists who came to Cambridge to do postgraduate work in biochemistry. Working alongside them Needham developed an interest in Chinese culture and science, and simply for his own interest taught himself the language. He also began to ask himself, first, why it was that during ancient and medieval times China was so far ahead of Europe in science and technology, and then why the advance to modern science took place in the West: these were the basic questions that were later to underlie his great work. One of these Chinese scientists, Lu Gwei‐djen, was a cardinal influence at this time. Not only was she trained in modern science, but also she had access to the old Chinese culture through her apothecary father, to whom the first volume of “Science and Civilisation in China” is dedicated. Later she returned to Cambridge, where she has now been working full‐time with Needham on the project for 12 years.

        When the war came Joseph Needham was, as a Chinese‐speaking scientist, exceptionally qualified to be sent to China as head of the British scientific mission. For four years during the war he directed the SinoBritish Science Cooperation Office, in the course of which he travelled thousands of miles all over China, made contact with a vast number of. Chinese scientists and engineers, and began to build up material about Chinese science.

        Before the war was over he was gathering support for the establishment of an international agency for scientific cooperation, and he met with such success that he has justifiably been called the man who put the S into UNESCO. He was the first Director of UNESCO’s Department of Natural Sciences. When he returned to Cambridge in 1948, he thus had behind him a record of academic and public achievement which was more than enough for a single lifetime. But in 1954 came the publication of the first volume of the great work on which he is still engaged, “Science and Civilisation in China.” *

        * Twenty-seven books (1954-2008)

    1. Macroduck

      “…the important Indian oopulation…”

      Are the less important natve populations? Or have you become so habitual in declaring thing “important” that it just shows up everywhere?

      More evidence here that things are going badly for Xi; whenever he doesn’t like the way his winds are blowing, ltr gets busy casting shade. To the careful reader, ltr is an index of how badly things are going for Xi.

      China is a slave nation.
      Taiwan isn’t under Chinese control.
      China’s pandemic response is becoming increasingly unpopular with China’s citizens.
      China’s economy is in trouble, and the property sector is no longer working as a macroeconomic control tool.
      Financial shocks are turning contagious.

      Tough time to be overturning the post-Mao political norm of handing over power to other party leaders after a period in charge. That norm served to put party, and to a lesser extent country, ahead of personal ambition. But who needs that?

      It’s like Putin and Xi and Trump all share the goal of life-long rule. Emperor. With new clothes and everything.

  9. pgl

    Trump lawyer Alina Habba has already admitted that this picture was taken in Trump’s office at Mar-a-Lago. Alina, however, assures us that Trump has left the documents neatly stored in those boxes and it was those rude FBI agents that scattered them all over the floor. So untidy these FBI agents were!

    1. Ivan

      She actually got that one right. it is part of normal procedure to photograph the material removed as part of the documentation. So yes they took the material out of that box (2A) in his office and put it on the floor to document what they had removed from that office. The carpet documents the location beyond any imaginable doubt. They have substantial video documentation of the whole process (opening the door finding documents etc.) – but it would be a little much to release that also.

    1. pgl

      The chairman of Russia’s Lukoil oil giant, Ravil Maganov, has died after falling from a hospital window in Moscow, reports say. The company confirmed his death but said only that Maganov, 67, had “passed away following a severe illness”. Russian media said he was being treated at Moscow’s Central Clinical Hospital and died of his injuries. Maganov is the latest of a number of high-profile business executives to die in mysterious circumstances.

      Maganov criticized the invasion of Ukraine from the beginning. It is interesting that the Annual Report of Lukoil supports Ukraine. So maybe this oligarch is no longer a Putin buddy. Now JohnH remains a loyal Putin pet poodle so he is probably safe hiding in the Kremlin.

      1. Ivan

        They need to do something about window security in Moscow. People keep accidentally falling out of them.

  10. ToBeEconnedOrNotToBeEconned

    “Where else would you find a carpet so tacky?”
    I can think of at least two other locations:
    1) 725 5th Ave, New York, NY
    2) 1180 Observatory Dr, Madison, WI

  11. joseph

    Trump is whining that the Top Secret documents displayed on the floor is very deceptive, somehow abnormal, implying he is messy. So unfair.

    Doesn’t he know that is standard procedure for low life criminal busts? The cops spread their haul of weapons, drugs — Top Secret documents — on the floor for a photo shoot of contraband illustrating that the warrant and bust were factual. Good for public relations too when the low life perp is publicly denying their existence.

    1. pgl

      Alini Habba – one of Trump’s incompetent lawyers – made the same complaint. Of course this bimbo just admitted Trump knew he has classified materials in a Maro Lago office frequented by lots of people.

    2. Moses Herzog

      Typical level complaints you’d hear from a 5 year old. “Mom, you didn’t cut the crust off my PB & J!!!!!”

    3. Macroduck

      The very same point is being made by former law enforcement officials: evidentiary photo shoots are impromptu affairs.

      1. Moses Herzog

        It’s been a few months since I picked up a hardcopy NYT (because of their stealth attacks against labor unions), 3 Glenn Thrush articles in today’s hardcopy. Bet Thrush has some interesting stuff in all 3 of those.

  12. pgl

    A small note and request. I don’t mind people critiquing the Washington Consensus providing they have some clue what this set of policy proposals were. And I certainly do not mind people praising Jeffrey Sachs when he on occasion gets something correct.

    But to on the one hand bash the Washington Consensus and on the other hand praise policy recommendations made by Sachs 30 years ago is really dumb because Sachs was literally the founder of the Washington Consensus set of policy recommendations.

    Yea I am referring to Economic Know Nothing JohnH. But here is the request. I would really love it if no one ever again praises the war crimes committed by Putin in Ukraine. OK – Sachs is going down the pathetic road of blaming the US for Putin’s war crimes. But here Sachs has clearly fallen off the deep end.

    1. Anonymous

      how’s the crossing of the dneipr and reconquesta of kherson going?

      and those guys taken to disney should have left their azov bling in kiev

      1. Macroduck

        Ya know, being smug the invasion of a country, you kinda give away your agenda. So glad you’re showing your allegiance to Pooti-Poot right out where we can see it. Let’s us know who we’re hearing from.

        You and Johnny trade pelmeni recipes when you’re not applauding the death of Ukrainians?

        1. Moses Herzog

          I kind of imagined the two of them asking Barkley Rosser for his favorite risotto recipe, and then Barkley hiking his pants up and snorting pretentiously and saying “I got my risotto recipe from a Saudi Arabian Prince’s fiancée, after she formed a crush on me when I revealed I was a member of MI5. The sea was angry that day, my friends – like an old man trying to send back soup in a deli. I got about fifty feet out and suddenly, the great beast appeared before me. I tell you, he was ten stories high if he was a foot. As if sensing my presence, he let out a great bellow. I said, ‘Easy, big fella!’ “

        1. Menzie Chinn Post author

          JohnH: ISW has been a source of information not subject to hyperbole, shown ex post to be pretty accurate I think. Do you have an example where ISW (not a mainstream outlet I think) is not a good source.

          On the other hand, RT hardly seems to be unbiased.

          1. pgl

            RT may be biased but let’s remember. Johnny boy’s day is always sunnier when he can see how Putin’s war crimes are killing more Ukrainians. He is that kind of guy.

          2. JohnH

            Yes, I agree that RT is biased…as is the US mainstream media.

            It’s clear that you have to go to outlets that are not mainstream…unnoticed outlets whose readership is small. From what I just read at ISW, it doesn’t look bad for source with and inherently American perspective. However, I am surprised that they had so little to say about events at the Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power Plant (ZNPP) and the newly arrived IAEA team.

          3. pgl

            The Institute for the Study of Wars lists its board members, which I bet JohnH thinks are members of the Washington Consensus. After all neoliberal economic policy is the same thing as neoconservative foreign policy when one has no clue what either one even is:

            General Jack Keane (US Army, Retired), Chairman, Institute for the Study of War; President, GSI, LLC

            Dr. Kimberly Kagan, Founder & President, Institute for the Study of War

            The Honorable Kelly Craft, Former US Ambassador to UN and Canada

            Dr. William Kristol, Director, Defending Democracy Together

            The Honorable Joseph I. Lieberman, Senior Council, Kasowitz Benson Torres & Friedman, LLP

            Kevin Mandia, Chief Executive Officer & Board Director, Mandiant

            Jack D. McCarthy, Jr., Senior Managing Director & Founder, A&M Capital

            Bruce Mosler, Chairman, Global Brokerage, Cushman & Wakefield, Inc.

            General David H. Petraeus (US Army, Retired), Member, KKR & Chairman, KKR Global Institute

            Dr. Warren Phillips, Lead Director, CACI International

            Colonel William Roberti (US Army, Retired), Managing Director, Alvarez & Marsal

          4. JohnH

            A nice commentary from IB Times by someone who trying to cut through the fog of war and propaganda.

            “ Kherson Counteroffensive: Why Is Ukraine Silent If Its Forces Are Winning?

            KEY POINTS
            With media barred from accessing frontline areas ,reports from Kherson are scarce
            The balance of power around Kherson could favor the Ukrainians
            Unverified report suggest that Ukrainian forces might be suffering heavy losses”

            My observation—there is nothing to suggest that the Ukrainians are having much success. Of course, Ukraine may have finally learned that actions speak louder than words. Up until now it’s been nothing but words.

      2. Ivan

        You don’t even get it was a trap – you are as dumb as Putin. Months of telegraphing the plan to retake Kherson leading to Russian troops and armor being drained from the north to go “defend” conquered territory in the south. Even the Russian brigades of Donetsk and Luhansk natives were pulled down to Kherson becoming cannon fodder in a strange new area.

        Now a news blackout on the fighting. Hmmm kind of makes you think – if you know how to think. Strategic brilliance is not out of the question – on the Ukraine side.

        1. pgl

          You are ruining Johnny boy’s day. His only joy in life these days is to see Ukrainians die simply defending their homes. Me thinks if Johnny had been born earlier, he would have worked for the Gestapo.

      3. Ivan

        How is Putins deadline for taking Donetsk oblast by August 31’st going?

        Oh I hear that he just extended it to September 15’th. Did he put a year on that date?

  13. pgl

    We have an email scandal but this one involves Virginia Thomas (right wing corrupt wife of a Supreme Court justice):


    Virginia “Ginny” Thomas, wife of conservative U.S. Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas, reportedly attempted to sway 2020 election results in the battleground state of Wisconsin following repeated communication with dozens of Arizona state lawmakers. The Washington Post reported that she contacted 29 Arizona lawmakers, some multiple times, in November and December of 2020 and urged them to “choose” their own presidential electors while ignoring President Joe Biden’s popular vote victory—a contradiction of Arizona state law that stipulates voters choose electors. Emails to Republican Wisconsin lawmakers state Senator Kathy Bernier and state Representative Gary Tauchen reportedly showed communication at 10:47 a.m. on November 9. It was the same time Arizona lawmakers received a “verbatim copy,” according to The Post, which obtained the Bernier email, while the Tauchen email was obtained by the watchdog group Documented and then provided to The Post. Thomas reportedly sent all of the emails through FreeRoots, an online platform that allowed people to send pre-written emails to multiple elected officials.

  14. joseph

    Trump has hired the dumbest lawyers on the planet.

    His lawyer Alina Habba in his other case on tax fraud in New York went on the defensive regarding the “deceptive photo.”

    On the Sean Hannity Show she said: “I’m somebody who has been in his office.. I have firsthand knowledge. I have never seen that. That is not the way his office looks.. He has guests frequently there.”

    So this idiot lawyer has just confirmed on live TV first hand knowledge that Donald Trump frequently had guests traipsing through the room where he kept unsecured Top Secret documents.

    But she may have more problems of her own. In her sworn affidavit in the New York case for a tax fraud subpoena she said: “On May 5, 2022, I diligently searched each and every room of Respondent’s private residence located at Mar-a-Lago, including all desks, drawers, nightstands, dressers, closets, etc.”

    This means that incidental to the tax fraud subpoena she must have come across and handled the Top Secret documents in Trump’s desk, by her own sworn testimony. Her own handling of classified documents and failure to report could be a violation of the Espionage Act.

    (Note that this affidavit by Habba is separate from the document signed by Trump’s Florida lawyers in the federal subpoena that they had also searched for classified documents and found none.)

    It seems that all of Trump’s lawyers are going to have to resign as being targets of their own crimes.

    1. Macroduck

      How dumb does a lawyer, or client, have to be to step outside of a privileged relationship in one case, to become an evidentiary witness in another? Could it be that Trump wants to disqualify his own lawyers, so he can delay proceedings while rounding up new representation? That seems a stretch even for the “delay and dissemble” king.

    1. pgl

      The interview between Greta and Dershowitz shows two things: (a) why Greta has to be on Faux News as no one wanted to hire this incompetent attorney as their lawyer for many years; and (b) no one should ever again hire Dershowitiz again as no judge can ever take him seriously. Dershowitz loves to brag at how he teaches at HARVARD. It is going to be funny when HARVARD finally decides to fire this worthless law professor.

  15. joseph

    Oh, and Trump’s complaint “They even took my passports.”

    Well, that is also standard procedure for establishing personal possession. Typically investigators will collect legal evidence of direct possession using car keys, a check book, utility bills or in this case passports that are in the same location as the contraband.

    Here is Trump going on social media and providing evidence against himself. No wonder no reputable lawyer will represent him. They know they can’t get him to shut up.

  16. pgl

    Putin may have even less class than Trump:


    Russian President Vladimir Putin privately laid flowers at Mikhail Gorbachev’s coffin on Thursday, snubbing the weekend’s public funeral in a move reflecting the Kremlin’s uneasiness about Gorbachev’s legacy.

    Yea Donald snubbed the funerals of a lot of distinguished Americans but then again no one wanted him there anyway.

    1. Barkley Rosser

      I have put up a long post about the late M.S. Gorbachev on Econospeak that has a lot of information people here may not know and also addresses the funeral issue. Not going to repeat it all here.

  17. pgl

    Semiconductor Micron is going big on new investment including $15 billion in little old Idaho:


    Semiconductor giant Micron announced Thursday it will invest $15 billion over the next decade to expand its operations in the US state of Idaho to build memory capacity for automotive and other sectors. The plan, part of a Micron global investment strategy to invest $150 billion, will create 17,000 new jobs, the Boise, Idaho-based company said. The initiative, which Micron called the “largest private investment ever made in Idaho,” follows a Micron pledge last month to spend $40 billion in “leading-edge memory manufacturing” in the United States.
    The project will tap into state funds that are part of the $52 billion to promote production of microchips included in the Chips and Science Act, which President Joe Biden signed into law on August 9.

  18. ltr

    —– is a slave nation.
    —– is a slave nation.
    —– is a slave nation.

    [ This is of course false and definitive racism. How sad. ]

    1. Macroduck

      Yes, and holding slaves is often an expression of racism. To the extent China’s practice of slavery is racially based, it is reason to resist the expansion of China’s power beyond its borders. To the extent China’s slavery is class based – and some of it certainly is – it is a repudiation of everything the Chinese Communist Party claims to stand for.

      Either way, it is beyond disgusting to hear “we are great and good and special” propaganda from the country with the second highest number of slaves in the world.

  19. joseph

    A picture is worth a thousand words. In this case, Rick Stryker has been thankfully dumb stuck regarding his claim that the search warrant was illegal.

    1. Moses Herzog

      Rick Stryker is nothing more than a slightly dumber Western version of “ltr”. He’s fooling very few people here.

    2. pgl

      But Alan Dershowitz and Greta are arguing that the FBI “staged” this photo. Seriously? And of course Dershowitz is now saying that the picture itself leaked classified information to our enemies. While Dershowitz gloats he teaches at HARVARD, something tells me that their law school is preparing a letter informing him that his tenure will be revoked.

  20. Moses Herzog

    If only every “prove you’re not a robot” sign in was so easy. Funny.

    Thanks joseph, one needs some laughs when there’s some legit chance nuclear dust could hitchhike on the jet stream three quarters the way around the world.

    1. Menzie Chinn Post author

      ToBeEconnedOrNotToBe: As noted various times before (you should know since you commented on the relevant post), it is here. Hence, I can only conclude you are feigning ignorance, in order to convey some message. I will confess sometimes things slip by (I don’t get paid for moderating this blog, let alone paid for contributing to it).

      I have also noted that if you include a YouTube video (or other video link) that requires me to look through it, the comment might not get posted quickly (if ever).

      1. ToBeEconnedOrNotToBe

        Menzie Chinn:
        I made a post on this thread not in violation of the stated rules and it wasn’t posted. It isn’t my ignorance but your inconsistency.

        1. Menzie Chinn Post author

          ToBeEconnedOrNotToBe aka Econned: My apologies, it was in “pending” (along with 4 5 other older comments – from Macroduck, Baffling, etc.) and 4 newer comments. It, along with the other 4, is now posted. (There are 7 comments with YouTube links in “pending”, so some people will have to keep on waiting.)

          1. ToBeEconnedOrNotToBe

            I get that approving comments is time-consuming and it isn’t your priority, but it’s rather suspect when certain comments are left in a pending state while others aren’t. And it isn’t a timing issue as my comment was made well before dozens of comments from others which were approved before mine. Additionally, there was no YouTube link and nothing close to violating the posted “rules”. And this isn’t a singular instance.
            I’m probably just “feigning ignorance” again. Right?

          2. Menzie Chinn Post author

            ToBeEconnedOrNotToBe aka Econned: Really? Please tell me of any other comment of yours which was never posted. I can tell you that the posts by Macroduck and baffling didn’t have any offending commentary (in fact, they’re usually pretty complimentary to me) – it’s just that I overlooked them.

            Despite the fact your comments are typically devoid of content, I have posted them all.

            I have to conclude you are paranoid.

          3. ToBeEconnedOrNotToBe

            Menzie Chinn:
            Really??? How is it paranoia when the evidence is that you didn’t post it?

            Also, your suggestion that another’s comments are devoid of content is EXTREMELY rich given the “content” of this very post. Moreover, roughly 80% of the comments here are devoid of content – i assumed that’s the point of the comment section here. Your regular lack of perception is quite hilarious.

          4. Barkley Rosser


            You are indeed verifying that you are the second most pompous person here after me (I am Number One!!!). You have already gone over a cliff with your obsession that Menzie is an egomaniac, which I shall repeat he is not, although when I made a mocking comment about this, stupid liar Moses Herzog thought I was being serious.

            Anyway, you are off-the-well effed up, a-hole, And now this whining about when Menzie allows your stupid posts to show up here? Really, how about posting something substantive rather than your nauseating egotistical drivel, please.

          5. Moses Herzog

            @ Menzie
            One of those times, one of the very few wise things you’ve heard from me:

            “Remember, no good deed goes unpunished”

            —-Yogi Berra, when he put a silver dollar into a Salvation Army Red Kettle, and then immediately after twisted his ankle stepping into a street gutter.

        2. ToBeEconnedOrNotToBe

          “Barkley Rosser”,
          And please enlighten me as to your substantive contribution to this thread.

          1. Baffling

            Econned, why do you post using different names and troll this site?

            I can only guess your recent spate of complaints against prof chinn on this holiday weekend is because you have no family or friends to spend it with. I certainly wouldn’t want to spend a holiday with you. Sad. Maybe rick could use some company.

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