EJ Antoni/Heritage Foundation (Aug 5): “I would not be surprised if a recession is backdated to July or the current month”

From FoxNews. Here’s a picture of indicators followed by the NBER’s BCDC over the past year. Note that August numbers are mostly up.

Figure 1: Nonfarm Payroll (NFP) employment from CES (blue), civilian employment (orange), industrial production (red), personal income excluding current transfers in Ch.2017$ (bold light green), manufacturing and trade sales in Ch.2017$ (black), consumption in Ch.2017$ (light blue), and monthly GDP in Ch.2017$ (pink), GDP (blue bars), all log normalized to 2021M11=0. Source: BLS via FRED, Federal Reserve, BEA 2024Q2 3rd release/annual update, S&P Global Market Insights (nee Macroeconomic Advisers, IHS Markit) (10/1/2024 release), and author’s calculations.

It’s possible that NBER will backdate the recession to starting in July. So far we have preliminary data for August for consumption, personal income ex-transfers, and industrial production, and don’t have Q3 GDP (although all nowcasts for Q3 indicate growth). Still, NBER peak in July does seem a little unlikely to me.

By the way, Dr. Antoni also declared a recession a little more than two years ago.

5 thoughts on “EJ Antoni/Heritage Foundation (Aug 5): “I would not be surprised if a recession is backdated to July or the current month”

  1. pgl

    I had to look up “empiricist” since Antoni calls himself that every time Faux News invites him on to lie and lie and lie. I never knew empiricist means someone who manipulates empirical data 24/7!

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  2. pgl

    “By the way, Dr. Antoni also declared a recession a little more than two years ago.”

    He did. So did Steven Koptis!

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  3. pgl

    Hey I survived that clip as it was mercifully brief. Let’s see – a downward revision is equating to the premise that employment itself fell regardless of how large the originally reported increase was large. And the fact that the latest BLS figure had upward revisions? Oh that does not count.

    The brazen dishonesty of this clown should be apparent with anyone whose IQ is above the teens. Alas Faux News has lots of viewers with single digit IQs!

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  4. pgl

    Antoni’s lies on the Twitter are so off the wall one might wonder why he is not banned. Oh wait – Elon Musk owns the Twitter and we know where this South African racist lies.

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    1. Macroduck

      X is getting really bad grades from civilians and from public safety officials over the difficulty of finding useful information about hurricane preparation and recovery efforts.

      Twitter was a valued resource for hurricane information in its day. X is so full of misinformation, disinformation, cons, hustles and fraud, that those in need of real information are going elsewhere. They simply can’t afford the time it takes to plow through all of the Musk culture looking for what they need.

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